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[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You worded it strangely. Liberals and aoc want uhc

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Universal health care is antithetical to both market economies and economic freedom which are both core liberal principles. Liberals cannot actively support it without also confronting the inherent contradictions within liberal ideology.

Unless you're using the term "liberal" in the US sense of 'anybody "left" of fascism' in which case you're statistically correct, but mostly due to generalization.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well how about this I DEFINATELY %100 do agree that capitalism has a fucking problem. I believe it makes more sense to regulate harshly and have a 50s style tax on the rich than to throw baby out with water. Im liberal in the sense that HUMAN RIGHTS must take precedent no matter what part of an economic shift we're in

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Liberals cannot actively support it without also confronting the inherent contradictions within liberal ideology.

Thank you, I couldn't have asked for a better demonstration of this point. A healthcare system that is based on the free market but that is "regulat[ed] harshly and [with] a 50s style tax on the rich" is not universal healthcare!

If you can see the issues with healthcare and can understand why universal healthcare would be a necesarry improvement then how are you still advocating for a free market solution for anything?

That baby died a long time ago, and required required constant human rights violations to keep it alive in the first place. Getting rid of the bathwater won't bring it back or make it require less cruelty to keep alive.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If liberals actually wanted uhc we'd have it by now. Instead they neutered Medicare/Medicaid because "if were nice to the republicans maybe they'll be nice to us when theyre in power". now look where we are.