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[โ€“] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Being vegan is a moral base line.

[โ€“] weirdcarrotmonster@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not that i disagree, but can you elaborate on that?

[โ€“] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (34 children)

Inflicting pain and suffering is bad, especially if done for selfish reasons, like pleasure (and tbh if someone were to disagree with that, I'd dont want to talk to them). Exploiting animals is exactly that, taste pleasure to be exact.

[โ€“] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

classic first worlder with their elevated standard of living:

  • Animal based protein is often cheaper and more easily accessible
  • herbivores as a middle step helps digest frankly indigestible plants

I am not disagreeing with you there is a fine line between acceptable and gluttonous, but acting holier than though, just cause you insistently chew grass and destroy your gut biome doesn't help the animals

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[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Counter argument, I need to eat and I can catch seafood myself without contributing towards capitalism. Isn't a full diet but its a start. Can make it into a full meal with some rice.

[โ€“] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How is that a counter argument?

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I need to eat food. You can't really just state the moral base line is not to eat

[โ€“] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't need to eat animals tho?

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Must be nice being rich enough to eat what ever you feel like having. Some of us are not so fortunate and have to make do with what is available.

[โ€“] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Assuming fish don't have feelings, it is fine. But if fish have 0.1% the moral weight of a human being, can you say you're worth more than 1000 fish?

[โ€“] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Rice and beans are only for the wealthy I guess.

[โ€“] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How are you going to get vitamin B12 while being vegan? As far as I know it's not possible.

[โ€“] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

By supplementing it. As should people who are not vegan, cause B12 is one of the most common deficiencies.

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