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Being vegan is a moral base line.
no, it's not
oh but it is
saying it doesn't make it true
Right back at you
I'm not the one making a positive claim.
Well you could have asked this person to explain instead of just saying "no it's not." Also, as far as I'm aware, there's no reason for positive claims ought to have the burden of proof instead of a negative claim. Any positive claim can be turned into a negative claim by phrasing it in the negative anyway, and positing the non-existence of something still carries the burden of proof.
Anyway, veganism generally has a clear rationale behind it that is widely known, but rarely do I see people seriously arguing that omnivorism is as ethical as veganism. So -- burden of proof lies on you I'd say.
a claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. dismissing that claim is not the same as making a claim.
dismissing the claim is merely an action that occurs in the eye of the beholder. Your dismissing a claim does not actually challenge the claim or affect the one who holds it, so why even?
why make an unsupported claim?
ITT: people listing the hills they'd die on. Hardly anyone is giving support for their claims.