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More than one "lane" you could turn into or out to. People are idiots, so you gotta remember how ~~had~~ bad things could get.
I lived in a place with a basic circle put in to "smooth" traffic on a small-but-main avenue, and they had a town hall meeting, YouTube tutorial, and a hands-on workshop on how to navigate a regular circle. People still came to the thing, put a left signal on, and pulled straight into oncoming traffic because they wanted to go that way. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ok ok, so you're saying that basically any roundabout is too difficult. Then it's a case of driver certification and not roundabouts. We really should stop seeing having a driver license as a right, rather than a privilege. Of course that will never happen.
The problem with not seeing driving as a right is without public transport you will alienate a huge portion of the most vulnerable people.
You need to solve other issues before you can start taking away licenses unfortunately
I rather have people be alienated then them crashing into other people. If not having a car is such a huge problem, drive better or move somewhere where you are not so reliant on a car.
There's a town near me that put in a couple of roundabouts. There's an old lady known to the entire area who will simply treat the roundabout like a standard 4 way stop that has a cone in the middle and just go whatever way she is going, so turn left to turn left, etc.
Maybe she should get a ticket
Any project involving the general public that requires an explanation is doomed from the outset. Explanations just don't scale well.
Anyone who needs this roundabout explained probably shouldn't be driving.
This looks like a perfectly ordinary round about to me, except for them driving on the left. It doesn't have multiple car lanes.
The round abouts with multiple car lanes are indeed confusing to some people, and the ones I've seen all have the bicycle lanes offset to make crossings further from the center or dug out under the road.
Oh, not multiple car lanes, no. Just the pedestrian/bike throughway, I guarantee, will have a nonzero amount of drivers on it. Hence why I put lanes in quotes.