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"It has been dubbed Britain's 'most woke' roundabout because drivers must give priority to pedestrians, then cyclists, and then other cars and lorries before continuing on themselves. Locals have pointed out the priority for cyclists and pedestrians is unnecessary as only cars and lorries regularly use the Boundary Way route."

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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (15 children)

My issue with this roundabout is that it's the worst of all worlds. It's unusual, and complex for cars. Given how bad the average driver is, I wouldn't want to be a cyclist or pedestrian dealing with this.

While it has its problems, Milton Keynes does non-car traffic quite well. It has "red ways" that cut under or over the main trunk roads. It's possible to reach most of the city without having to cross a major road.

While retrofitting this is harder, surely they could come up with something better, for that sort of money.

Oh and as for the woke comments. I've found describing it/replacing it with empathy/empathetic works well. It seems to really annoy the gammon crowd, while turning those on the fence away from it, hard.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I might be daft, but how exactly is this complex? Or rather, how is more complex than any other situation where you have to give way? These kind of roundabouts is all you have over here. Never seemed difficult to grasp imho.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

More than one "lane" you could turn into or out to. People are idiots, so you gotta remember how ~~had~~ bad things could get.

I lived in a place with a basic circle put in to "smooth" traffic on a small-but-main avenue, and they had a town hall meeting, YouTube tutorial, and a hands-on workshop on how to navigate a regular circle. People still came to the thing, put a left signal on, and pulled straight into oncoming traffic because they wanted to go that way. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] bstix 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This looks like a perfectly ordinary round about to me, except for them driving on the left. It doesn't have multiple car lanes.

The round abouts with multiple car lanes are indeed confusing to some people, and the ones I've seen all have the bicycle lanes offset to make crossings further from the center or dug out under the road.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Oh, not multiple car lanes, no. Just the pedestrian/bike throughway, I guarantee, will have a nonzero amount of drivers on it. Hence why I put lanes in quotes.

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