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(For some context, I live in Canada, beer labels are bilingually English & French here)

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[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

is it common to say [bɪr] in canada? i learned something!

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It should be /ɹ/ or /ɚ/ instead of /r/.

[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

/r/ is perfectly acceptable to represent that phoneme in a broad transcription. Would only be a problem had ~~he~~ they wrote [r].

[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

yeah true. thx. i was just a bit puzzeled bc i assumed [ ].

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

This reminds me Mark Hale using emojis for broad transcription of Marshallese vowels. That was hilarious (and genius - it's a great way to tell people "focus on their contrast dammit").

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, the question was in []. I responded with // because I'm not enough of an expert to attempt narrow transcriptions 🙂.

[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

That is also a fair point.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Usually I wouldn't bother, but seeing as this is a linguistics community; it's a lot more inclusive to use the singular "they" rather than "he" if you don't know the pronouns one uses.

Signed, not a he.

[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't necessarily agree with your argumentation generally speaking (both the generic masculine pronoun and singular they are fine in my opinion), but you do literally have your pronouns right there, so I will admit I could/should have avoided the issue anyhow. Sorry about that.

Edit: Oh, also, Weißbier, to answer your post's question.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Note that I'm not great with IPA, English is my second language, and I made this while stoned 2 years ago, so it might not necessarily be accurate! :P I'm pretty sure that's how most people pronounce it here. Although Canadian English is a wonderful mishmash of American and British Engliah, with a hint of French and Indigenous influences.

How do people say it in your neck of the woods?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

I’m not great with IPA

It's obviously not your favorite type of beer :)

[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

and I made this while stoned 2 years ago,

👍

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

[r] is like the trill (as in Spanish, Polish, etc.). You're probably using either [ɹ] or [ɚ], depending on how vocalic your R is.