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Steam Proton doesn't works (lemmings.world)
submitted 21 hours ago by HungryLemon@lemmings.world to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.ml
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Hi! Absolutely none game with Steam Proton doesn't works! But when I use Wine-GE with Lutris (or just use Wine-GE instead of Steam Proton) - everything works fine! Where's the issue may be? πŸ€”

OS: Devuan

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (29 children)

The problem is almost certainly your OS.

Devuan does not use systemd, it uses ... sysvinit, or OpenRC, or runnit.

Basically the entire linux ecosystem is built around and on top of systemd... other init based OSs that try to run most linux software... will encounter many absurd and esoteric problems, all of which ultimately stem from the fact that the vast majority of linux software is developed with systemd as the default, assumed, init system.

Basically, any Linux OS that doesn't use systemd should be considered entirely experimental, beyond any software that the OS devs explicitly state they support.

Some non-systemd OS developers will dedicate time to either forking or patching certain, specific, existing software or libraries to be compatible with all the init systems their OS supports, but realistically, given the niche nature of such OSs and their small dev teams, they are always going to be months to years behind the current support level for systemd based OSs.

You could attempt to fix this specific issue you are having, but it would likely require you to essentially become an OS developer.

It would be vastly easier to simply switch from Devuan over to standard Debian, which runs Steam and Proton and such pretty much just fine.

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (17 children)

...will encounter many absurd and esoteric problems, all of which ultimately stem from the fact that the vast majority of linux software is developed with systemd as the default, assumed, init system.

Unless the application in question is directly interacting with systemd, then I believe this is overblown.

Applications largely simply expect certain features to be supported. DNS, for example, could be provided by systemd-resolvd or by dnscrypt-proxy.

This isn't being built around systemd, this is being built around the expectation of a feature. This feature can be provided by different applications and still function.

In my experience, providing the features expected is far more important than providing specifically the systemd API.

Basically, any Linux OS that doesn't use systemd should be considered entirely experimental, beyond any software that the OS devsΒ explicitlyΒ state they support.

Hard disagree.

I think the init system is more abstracted away from the developers of a game/typical user app than you are implying.

[–] HungryLemon@lemmings.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

But if it will works πŸ€”. And what can I do to do now? Remains only to have try to install some other OS.

Also I've try this instruction: https://github.com/lutris/docs/blob/master/HowToEsync.md

But this also was be helpless 🀷

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I would look at the proton log of a game that doesn't work.

How do I create logs of a game I run with Proton?

Proton will create a log file for a particular game, if you set the launch parameter to:

PROTON_LOG=1 %command%

The log file will be created in your home folder with the name scheme steam-$STEAMID.log. For example:

$HOME/steam-379720.log
[–] HungryLemon@lemmings.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And the end of the log:

Modules:
Module	Address			Debug info	Name (23 modules)
PE	00400000-00a8a000	Export          megaserval
PE	7b000000-7b2a0000	Deferred        kernelbase
PE	7b600000-7b65f000	Deferred        kernel32
PE	7bc00000-7bcaa000	Export          ntdll
ELF	7d000000-7d005000	Deferred        <wine-loader>
ELF	7e9ff000-7eb86000	Export          libwine.so.1
ELF	f62ea000-f63d7000	Deferred        ntdll.so
ELF	f78e7000-f78f6000	Deferred        libmd.so.0
ELF	f78f6000-f790d000	Deferred        libbsd.so.0
ELF	f790d000-f7914000	Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF	f7914000-f7919000	Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF	f7919000-f7947000	Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF	f7947000-f7a99000	Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF	f7a99000-f7ad5000	Deferred        libglx.so.0
ELF	f7ad5000-f7b51000	Deferred        libgldispatch.so.0
ELF	f7b51000-f7c56000	Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF	f7c58000-f7cc4000	Deferred        libgl.so.1
ELF	f7cc4000-f7cc9000	Deferred        librt.so.1
ELF	f7cc9000-f7ef1000	Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF	f7ef1000-f7ef6000	Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF	f7ef6000-f7efb000	Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF	f7f07000-f7f99000	Deferred        gameoverlayrenderer.so
ELF	f7f9b000-f7fd0000	Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
Threads:
process  tid      prio    name (all IDs are in hex)
00000020 steam.exe
	00000024    0     
	00000118    0     
	00000130    0     
00000030 services.exe
	00000034    0     
	00000038    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	00000044    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000048    0     wine_threadpool_worker
	00000068    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000074    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000098    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	000000b0    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	000000c4    0     
	000000e4    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	000000e8    0     wine_threadpool_worker
0000003c winedevice.exe
	00000040    0     
	0000004c    0     
	00000050    0     wine_sechost_service
	00000054    0     
	00000058    0     
	0000005c    0     
	000000bc    0     
	000000c0    0     
00000060 winedevice.exe
	00000064    0     
	0000006c    0     
	00000070    0     wine_sechost_service
	00000078    0     
	0000007c    0     
	00000080    0     
	00000084    0     
	0000008c    0     
00000090 plugplay.exe
	00000094    0     
	0000009c    0     
	000000a0    0     wine_sechost_service
	000000a4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
000000a8 svchost.exe
	000000ac    0     
	000000b4    0     
	000000b8    0     wine_sechost_service
000000c8 explorer.exe
	000000cc    0     
	000000d0    0     
	000000d4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
000000dc rpcss.exe
	000000e0    0     
	000000ec    0     
	000000f0    0     wine_sechost_service
	000000f4    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	000000f8    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	000000fc    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
	00000100    0     wine_threadpool_worker
00000104 tabtip.exe
	00000108    0     
	00000110    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
	00000114    0     
	0000011c    0     
00000128 (D) Z:\mnt\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Mega Serval\megaServal.exe
	0000012c    0 <== 
	00000144    0     
0000013c conhost.exe
	00000140    0     
System information:
    Wine build: wine-8.0
    Platform: i386 (WOW64)
    Version: Windows 10
    Host system: Linux
    Host version: 6.1.0-35-amd64
1057.067:0030:0148:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
1057.067:0030:014c:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
1057.068:0030:0150:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
pid 15809 != 15808, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)

It doesn't seems that the problem in SystemD πŸ€”. Maybe...

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Take the whole log and put it a pastebin like pastebin.com. Then reply with the link.

[–] HungryLemon@lemmings.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Try different versions of proton. Also try changing the version of steam to the flatpak version, or to the native version if you are already using flatpak.

[–] HungryLemon@lemmings.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Here's the begin of the log:

Proton: 1731350438 proton-8.0-5d
SteamGameId: 2009720
Command: ['/mnt/Games/Steam/steamapps/common/Mega Serval/megaServal.exe']
Options: {'forcelgadd'}
depot: 3.0.20250408.124536
pressure-vessel: 0.20250408.0 scout
scripts: 0.20250408.0
sniper: 3.0.20250408.124536 sniper 3.0.20250408.124536
Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-35-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.137-1 (2025-05-07) x86_64
Language: LC_ALL None, LC_MESSAGES None, LC_CTYPE None
Effective WINEDEBUG: +timestamp,+pid,+tid,+seh,+unwind,+threadname,+debugstr,+loaddll,+mscoree
======================
fsync: up and running.
wine: RLIMIT_NICE is <= 20, unable to use setpriority safely
1048.198:0028:002c:trace:seh:install_bpf Installing seccomp filters.
1048.198:0028:002c:trace:seh:check_bpf_jit_enable enabled 0x31.
1048.201:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wineboot.exe" at 0000000140000000: builtin
1048.208:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernelbase.dll" at 000000007B000000: builtin
1048.209:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernel32.dll" at 000000007B600000: builtin
1048.223:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msvcrt.dll" at 0000000228280000: builtin
1048.230:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ucrtbase.dll" at 00000002C7470000: builtin
1048.230:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll" at 00000001EAF60000: builtin
1048.230:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" at 00000001D8C90000: builtin
1048.234:0028:002c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ws2_32.dll" at 0000000370F70000: builtin
1048.426:0030:0034:trace:seh:sigsys_handler SIGSYS, rax 0xffff, rip 0x600000000005.
1048.426:0030:0034:trace:seh:install_bpf Seccomp filters already installed.
1048.427:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\services.exe" at 0000000140000000: builtin
1048.433:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernelbase.dll" at 000000007B000000: builtin
1048.433:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernel32.dll" at 000000007B600000: builtin
1048.442:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msvcrt.dll" at 0000000228280000: builtin
1048.448:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ucrtbase.dll" at 00000002C7470000: builtin
1048.448:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll" at 00000001EAF60000: builtin
1048.448:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" at 00000001D8C90000: builtin
1048.451:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\rpcrt4.dll" at 0000000368420000: builtin
1048.458:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\version.dll" at 000000025DC30000: builtin
1048.458:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\setupapi.dll" at 000000036D860000: builtin
1048.461:0030:0034:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\userenv.dll" at 0000000244FC0000: builtin
1048.510:0030:0038:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_rpcrt4_server"
1048.654:003c:0040:trace:seh:sigsys_handler SIGSYS, rax 0xffff, rip 0x600000000005.
1048.654:003c:0040:trace:seh:install_bpf Seccomp filters already installed.
1048.655:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winedevice.exe" at 0000000140000000: builtin
1048.660:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernelbase.dll" at 000000007B000000: builtin
1048.660:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernel32.dll" at 000000007B600000: builtin
1048.668:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msvcrt.dll" at 0000000228280000: builtin
1048.674:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ucrtbase.dll" at 00000002C7470000: builtin
1048.674:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll" at 00000001EAF60000: builtin
1048.674:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" at 00000001D8C90000: builtin
1048.676:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ntoskrnl.exe" at 000000031CA90000: builtin
1048.720:003c:0040:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\rpcrt4.dll" at 0000000368420000: builtin
1048.722:0030:0044:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_rpcrt4_io"
1048.723:0030:0048:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_threadpool_worker"
1048.726:003c:0050:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_sechost_service"
1048.734:003c:004c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\mountmgr.sys" at 00000003BE830000: builtin
1048.761:003c:004c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\version.dll" at 000000025DC30000: builtin
1048.762:003c:004c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\setupapi.dll" at 000000036D860000: builtin
1048.947:0060:0064:trace:seh:sigsys_handler SIGSYS, rax 0xffff, rip 0x600000000005.
1048.947:0060:0064:trace:seh:install_bpf Seccomp filters already installed.
1048.948:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winedevice.exe" at 0000000140000000: builtin
1048.948:003c:0054:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\win32u.dll" at 00000002C73A0000: builtin
1048.950:003c:0054:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\gdi32.dll" at 00000002BB0A0000: builtin
1048.950:003c:0054:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\user32.dll" at 00000002169D0000: builtin
1048.954:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernelbase.dll" at 000000007B000000: builtin
1048.954:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\kernel32.dll" at 000000007B600000: builtin
1048.964:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msvcrt.dll" at 0000000228280000: builtin
1048.970:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ucrtbase.dll" at 00000002C7470000: builtin
1048.970:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\sechost.dll" at 00000001EAF60000: builtin
1048.970:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" at 00000001D8C90000: builtin
1048.973:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ntoskrnl.exe" at 000000031CA90000: builtin
1049.021:0060:0064:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\rpcrt4.dll" at 0000000368420000: builtin
1049.022:0030:0068:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_rpcrt4_io"
1049.025:0060:0070:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_sechost_service"
1049.029:0030:0074:warn:threadname:NtSetInformationThread Thread renamed to L"wine_rpcrt4_io"
1049.035:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\wineusb.sys" at 00000001E58A0000: builtin
1049.047:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\version.dll" at 000000025DC30000: builtin
1049.047:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\setupapi.dll" at 000000036D860000: builtin
1049.063:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\hidparse.sys" at 00000002AB600000: builtin
1049.063:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\winebus.sys" at 0000000219DA0000: builtin
1049.066:0060:006c:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
1049.085:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\win32u.dll" at 00000002C73A0000: builtin
1049.085:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\gdi32.dll" at 00000002BB0A0000: builtin
1049.085:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\user32.dll" at 00000002169D0000: builtin
1049.085:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\hidclass.sys" at 0000000332E40000: builtin
1049.085:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\winehid.sys" at 00000002FE9D0000: builtin
1050.025:0060:006c:trace:loaddll:build_module Loaded L"C:\\windows\\system32\\imm32.dll" at 0000000393730000: builtin
1050.027:0060:006c:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception code=6ba flags=0 addr=000000007B00CDB7 ip=7b00cdb7
1050.028:0060:006c:warn:seh:dispatch_exception unknown exception (code=6ba) raised
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception  rax=0000000000b2d800 rbx=0000000000b2dae8 rcx=0000000000b2d800 rdx=0000000000000000
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception  rsi=00000000000000cc rdi=00000000008f3e40 rbp=0000000000b2d8d0 rsp=0000000000b2d7e0
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception   r8=0000000000000000  r9=0000000000000000 r10=00000000008f4160 r11=0000000000000014
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:dispatch_exception  r12=0000000000b2dae8 r13=0000000000f3c750 r14=0000000000f3c750 r15=00000000000000b8
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:call_vectored_handlers calling handler at 000000031CAB5D90 code=6ba flags=0
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:seh:call_vectored_handlers handler at 000000031CAB5D90 returned 0
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:RtlVirtualUnwind type 1 rip 7b00cdb7 rsp b2d7e0
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:dump_unwind_info **** func cd48-cdbf
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:dump_unwind_info unwind info at 000000007B0AD730 flags 0 prolog 0xf bytes function 000000007B00CD48-000000007B00CDBF
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:dump_unwind_info     0xf: subq $0xc8,%rsp
1050.028:0060:006c:trace:unwind:RtlVi
[–] HungryLemon@lemmings.world 1 points 14 hours ago

It takes about 30 minutes...

[–] HungryLemon@lemmings.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Ok. I've cleaned that machine, but don't install there something yet πŸ€”. I'll try...

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