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If you voted for Trump then this is 100% what you specifically voted for. I’m tired of hearing this line, it’s bullshit. He was barking about literally everything he is doing the entire time, everyone else was pointing out that this is exactly what he was saying, if you genuinely didn’t think this is what he was all about the entire time then you are an idiot and the exact kind of tool they were asking you to be.
Fuck every single person who voted for this.
Or didn't vote. Those people are even worse than maga in my opinion.
Yeah, not voting for any of the bad options is a lot worse than voting for the worst option.
MAGA voted for what they wanted: they are getting excellent representation. Their wildest political fantasies are being enacted right now. The people who didn't vote at all - especially those who pretended the democrats are somehow just as bad as the literal fascists currently in power - they just shrugged off their responsibilities as democratic citizens and let the country be ruined by a minority of racist shitheads. The election result wasn't 50/50, but closer to 33/33/33: one third of Americans wanted white christian fascism, one third adamantly did not, and one third said, "fascism, democracy - what's the difference?"
I wouldn't say worse, but equally idiotic. Not voting doesn't absolve you from causing the result.
Not voting in 2020 would actually have been the optimal outcome for the country. Objectively, we would have been far, far better off if a large number of Democrats had stayed home in 2020, allowing Trump to get a second term then instead of now. Democrats focused on short-term expediency by forcing Biden through. They won the election in 2020, but at what a terrible price. Instead of a flailing second Trump term with Trump as a lame duck, Democrats gave Trump four more years to regroup, strategize, and come up with Project 2025. Democrats chose the cheap and easy solution in 2020, and every one of us is paying for it now.
Your strategy has some merit, but it fails in that it only considers short-term, rather than long-term thinking. Your victories end up temporary and ultimately Pyrrhic.
Voting for today's lesser of two evils only works if you're a goldfish with no memory of history.
You know, there's no law of nature dictating that Trump had to get a second term. If people had voted democrat in 2024 and 2028, Trump would just not have had a second term.
There was such a law. Not a law of nature, but that's a silly high bar that you're imposing. It was widely predicted that Biden would fail to enact the changes needed to prevent a MAGA return. I remember thinking that would happen the day Biden won the election.
Your post outlines the type of thinking that so damns us. You view every election as a completely independent event, as if they have zero influence on one another. Biden was a milquetoast centrist. He governed that way his entire adult life. It was eminently predictable, and many predicated, that he would fail to stop MAGA. Maybe you didn't want to listen to those predictions, but that's failing on your part.
Your view is that voters are always to blame, and that if the party chooses a bad candidate, well the voters are still to blame. You expect voters to show up and vote D election after election after election, even if the party repeatedly fails to live up to its promises and betrays its voters time and time again.
Sorry. Objectively, the best outcome would have been if Trump won in 2020. A Trump victory in 2020 would have been much, much preferable to one in 2024.
But you view each election as an isolated event. Every election is the most important one in history, and we're never allowed to think strategically long term.
This short term thinking is why Republicans control the government. Republicans can think long term. Liberals like yourself can't.
So this, the current situation, is the optimal outcome for you? Really?
You’re going to break your arms if you keep jerking yourself off that hard, you know?
You have poor reading comprehension.
You have poor situational understanding and garbage political takes.
Project 2025 is not from yesterday. Do you even know what the Heritage Foundation is?
This(project 2025) has been in the works for decades.
You have very little understanding of what is going on. You are the very goldfish you argue against.
Yes, they've tried for years. But they actually managed to properly plan it this time. Do you honestly believe there's no difference between Trump in 2024 and Trump in 2020? They have completely different cabinets. Hell, we would have had Pence as VP. The administration is run by entirely different people. They were a lot more careful about selecting for avowed loyalists this time. Trump winning in 2020 would have completely denied them this chance to reorganize. We would have objectively been much, much better off if a second Trump term came in 2020 than in 2024.
You have very little understanding of what is going on.
Voting to stop fascism is primordial and you cannot argue against that unless you are a fascist.
You make it sound like there was no choice between fascism and normalcy.
In fact, there was a choice to stop fascism but people decided not to vote because Israel.
And now Israel is better off and the genocide will be fulfilled.
With Harris, there would have been a status quo and a chance to stop the genocide. Trump and Israel are cut from the same cloth of fascism. So genocide on!!!!
Thanks protest non-voters, you couldn't have made it much worse for Palestine if you tried to.
There you go again. Blame the protestors for actions that others caused in conditions others created. Forget about the DNC, Biden, Harris ... they had no control over their own policies, did they? Of course not!