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Both Trump and his "border czar," Tom Homan, have said California officials could face arrest if they're perceived as impeding ICE operations.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed back against threats of arrest by Trump administration officials, remaining defiant as he oversees clashes between law enforcement agents and protesters in response to immigration raids across Los Angeles while also managing an ongoing power struggle with the federal government.

In an interview for MSNBC with NBC News’ Jacob Soboroff, Newsom called Homan's bluff, urging him to "just get it over with" and move ahead with the arrest.

“He’s a tough guy. Why doesn’t he do that? He knows where to find me,” Newsom said. “That kind of bloviating is exhausting. So, Tom, arrest me. Let's go."

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[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Exactly. I'm so tired of watching the left destroy themselves from the inside. Progress is slow. The right are clearly masters of playing the long game, they've been building to current events for decades. They're happy to take the 10% wins bit by bit. They're happy to make sacrifices for their progress.

Meanwhile the left demands nothing but perfection, and constantly cannibalises itself for not being perfect and revolutionising the world day 1.

You don't have to suddenly love the guy, rewrite history, or swear loyalty. You just have to know when someone's actually helping and not get in the way.

The right wins because they fight together. Business conservatives, evangelicals, fascists, libertarians. They might hate each other behind the scenes, but they march in line, and they'll eat burnt toast with a smile if it gets them closer to running the kitchen.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

A rational and situational understanding of the situation gets a lot of spears thrown at you, a lot of people claim left or right, I think for the most part the ones demanding absolute perfection with no compromises really just want a war. We’re in a world of broken boy soldiers with no glory to kill or die for. We’d rather devolve.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

The solution to the left cannibalizing itself isn't to ignore issue with people, it's to acknowledge those issues and seek out what we can work together on. Random online leftists aren't meaningfully getting in the way by criticizing him, I'd argue it's important so we keep in mind where he's an ally and where he's an enemy.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

I'd argue random online leftists criticizing non perfection is exactly why Trump won.

This isn't to say we should turn a blind eye to or ignore the valid criticisms, and I get that people think that's exactly what you're saying if argue in this direction. It's just, wouldn't it be better if people were currently protesting and petitioning for Harris to do something about the issues they didn't like her stance on, rather than protesting essentially illegal deportations in their own country?

I feel like it's kinda missing the forest for the trees.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

So, in a situation and conversation about him being an ally in the only substantial way he can be in this specific situation you’re going to get hung up idealism about a perfect elected leftist representative in a country that has never reflected those ideals?