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Both Trump and his "border czar," Tom Homan, have said California officials could face arrest if they're perceived as impeding ICE operations.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed back against threats of arrest by Trump administration officials, remaining defiant as he oversees clashes between law enforcement agents and protesters in response to immigration raids across Los Angeles while also managing an ongoing power struggle with the federal government.

In an interview for MSNBC with NBC News’ Jacob Soboroff, Newsom called Homan's bluff, urging him to "just get it over with" and move ahead with the arrest.

“He’s a tough guy. Why doesn’t he do that? He knows where to find me,” Newsom said. “That kind of bloviating is exhausting. So, Tom, arrest me. Let's go."

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 6 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Don't think for a second Newsom is a hero just because he opposes Trump. He's a very corrupt individual.

[–] trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

not nearly as bad but yeah, hea basicslly republicans from a decade ago cosplaying as a democrat, appeals to the california republicans, or like not appeals, calms them down enough or whatever

I'll take a Trotsky over a Stalin any day. Besides, this is Hollywood shit. The gov of California is a relatively blanched position. It's a showpony job by design. Newsom has power here because everyone that has power in Sacramento and in the county system supports him. Everybody fucking despises Trump except the neonazis at this point.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

What is it about important blue states, like California and New York, that keep voting for corrupt pieces of shit(Eric Adams)‽ Again and again¿ Like I'm an out and loud proud social democrat in probably the reddest state, but it gets exhausting trying to juxtapose that with trying to tell people how corrupt every single repuglican is.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 30 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

One guy who's actively defying this orange turd and all the fucking tankies on here would rather shit on Gavin because he's not the perfect online liberal like they are.

You people are the fucking problem right now.

The American left is engaged in a slow and unconscious suicide. Meanwhile, conservatives are fucking evil as fuck.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No. People pointing out corrupt politicians aren't the problem. Its those who cover for them and pretend like they are heros who are the problem.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 3 points 44 minutes ago

What cover have I given anyone? I'm calling out all the couch potato leftists who couldn't even get off the fucking couch to vote against fascists because of their bullshit purity tests.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago) (1 children)

He's thrown vulnerable people under the bus and has no principles other than what he thinks will help his career. Yeah, he's doing the right thing here, but let's not pretend he's good because he's doing the bare minimum

We can work with him while recognizing he's not a true ally

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

When someone is cooking a good meal, even if they are generally bad at cooking, shut up and let them cook.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 2 points 30 minutes ago (2 children)

Exactly. I'm so tired of watching the left destroy themselves from the inside. Progress is slow. The right are clearly masters of playing the long game, they've been building to current events for decades. They're happy to take the 10% wins bit by bit. They're happy to make sacrifices for their progress.

Meanwhile the left demands nothing but perfection, and constantly cannibalises itself for not being perfect and revolutionising the world day 1.

You don't have to suddenly love the guy, rewrite history, or swear loyalty. You just have to know when someone's actually helping and not get in the way.

The right wins because they fight together. Business conservatives, evangelicals, fascists, libertarians. They might hate each other behind the scenes, but they march in line, and they'll eat burnt toast with a smile if it gets them closer to running the kitchen.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 23 minutes ago

A rational and situational understanding of the situation gets a lot of spears thrown at you, a lot of people claim left or right, I think for the most part the ones demanding absolute perfection with no compromises really just want a war. We’re in a world of broken boy soldiers with no glory to kill or die for. We’d rather devolve.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

The solution to the left cannibalizing itself isn't to ignore issue with people, it's to acknowledge those issues and seek out what we can work together on. Random online leftists aren't meaningfully getting in the way by criticizing him, I'd argue it's important so we keep in mind where he's an ally and where he's an enemy.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 2 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

Fucking this.

Furthermore, when people won't even cook at all (online leftists who do fucking nothing but complain), they have no space to complain when someone is doing any cooking.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Only the sith deal in absolutes. Idealism is for idealists, aka tools. We are flawed beings, living in a flawed world, we have to deal with flaws. Nothing and nobody will ever be perfect for anything and everyone, that’s not a good reason to let fascists have their way. We can work out the details after the revolution.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf -2 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

'The Left' isn't going to do shit in their 'revolution' except talk about it online.

They don't show up to anything.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s why there are so many protests going on right now with people being arrested for confronting and resisting the current administration, because leftists never do anything, right?

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf -1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah I see tons of actual people protesting, not the terminally online Leftists here.

Regular people are fighting, not the tankies ;)

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 21 minutes ago

Tankies are not leftists, they’re authoritarian boot lickers, they just hate capitalism and love fascists and genocide.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

Not when cooking that meal could let them become head chef.

Newsom has his eye on the presidency, and he could win it if he becomes defined by this and not all the terrible shit he's done.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago (1 children)

At this point I’d take that as a win. Do you not understand the shit soup we are drowning in right now? Don’t let your idealism be a tool for the fascists.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

Working together doesn't mean we have to pretend our allies have no issues.

Newsom doesn't meaningfully resist fascism and his brand of politics are a major part of why we're here. Yeah, I'll stand by him while he's fighting, but that doesn't mean we can't criticize him.

We can't afford to see him as a true ally. He will abandon everything we're fighting for if it benefits him. A tiny percent of leftists criticizing him online amongst themselves will have no impact on how successfully the fascists are able to seize control.

I'm out there alongside liberals who hate most of what I believe, we can be open about that while still working together. We have a common enemy that needs to be stopped.

It means working with people you don't like but it doesn't mean we have to pretend they're perfect, or even good.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

If the conversation is about what they are doing to help, maybe don’t be a dick about it, there is a time and a place. Choose your battles.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 minutes ago

imo an important part of discussing what someone is doing to help is discussing how much we can trust them and how they're capable of helping. That mecessitates discussing what they're bad at.

You're 100% right there's a time and a place. I think a discussion in a left-leaning place like Lemmy with essentially no impact on what action people take is an appropriate place.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Just more TACO comments from wanna be bullies. These people would lose their teeth in a street fight. Then act like they are Rocky Balboa on state media Fox News. The reality is that they are pussies. Punch a bully and he never bothers you again.

[–] trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

eh nothing stops a bully for long, punch them and itll be a week, month, or a year, eventually theyll push and test boundaries again and then go further, gotta disable the bullies

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 52 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well, shit. There's a lot to not like about Newsom, but I can think of 100 democrat politicians that would have folded like wet Kleenex by now. He could be a lot more aggressive about this, but he's clearly trying to exhaust all the normal channels. Critical support for Gavin.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I'm surprised he didn't offer to switch parties, GJ Gavvy

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

If I am a betting person, and if Trump doesn't arrest him sooner, I would bet that Newsom will run for president near 2028, and that is when Trump will have him arrested.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Newsome will definitely run for president, and HitlerPig knows it, that's why he's going after him now.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 4 points 4 hours ago

Alexei Navalny would advise Newsome to not get arrested easily. Fight these fascists at every turn.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So are you? A betting person?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

In the case of Trump? No. The dude is unpredictable.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago
[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 53 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Gavin Newson kept California safe during the peak uncertain times of COVID.

Gavin Newson survived a recall that was initiated by the trump blowhards in Orange County and the Central Valley.

We do NOT NEED 2,000 national guards deployed to L.A. Trump WANTS to make things escalate, and 2,000 troops WILL make things escalate.

Your dipshit dictator is siccing military troops on citizens. This is war against citizens.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He did some great things during the peak but, since, he's frequently been nothing but a corpo ghoul. Sabotaging efforts to break up convicted killer and "power company"^1^, PG&E. Supporting rate increases so that the board of convicted killer and "power company", PG&E didn't have to face any actual penalties for killing people. Adamantly opposing any wealth tax. Putting significant support behind RTO/quiet layoffs.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago

I was a supporter for a while, but the more I get to know him, the less I like him. He's just another Corporatist Republican-Lite Democrat, and those are the losers that got HitlerPig elected in the first place. If he becomes President, HitlerPig, or someone worse, will be back in office in 2032.

I want the next Democratic president to be an aggressive, no apology, hard core reformer, who isn't afraid to stand up to Sociopathic Oligarchs and Traitors.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

he's got a law degree, and passed bar, he's aware of what an enormous investment opportunity that level of civil rights violation would entail.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 34 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

"That kind of bloviating is exhausting."

Bloviate - talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.

Instantly added to my lexicon. There's another word I've often used when I should have been using this one, because the other word (malapropism) isn't exactly what I am meaning a lot of the time but it was the closest thing to what I was trying to convey (someone talking out of their ass in a way that tries to sound intelligent when it isn't).

If ya want another one for thine lexicon might I suggest gormless? It's when one lacks intelligence or vitality. You can insult someone's intelligence and their dick if you are clever enough.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I keep a message chain to myself for new words - here's my most recent:

architectonics, antimonies, deracinated, vituperative, idempotent, moither, uxorious, voussoir, integumented, exuviated, entelechy.

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