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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 207 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The most important aspect of this that I think most people are missing is that they are specifically trying to bias the public into thinking he definitely did it. There is no "allegedly" in how they've treated him, they are actually using the positive public sentiment about what he did to continue to build the idea that it was definitely him and we don't need to go to court to prove it. The public loving Mangione and believing he definitely did it is actually in many ways beneficial to their case. It helps solidify the idea in the general public eye that "he did it" before any court case has looked at the facts.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Innocent until proven guilty, but if you say anything about that they’ll probably nix you from the jury pool so if you get selected just act dumb

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My wifes an attorney and has "guilty until proveb innocent" real big on her. Its so f'd up

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

proveb

I hope you didn't pay that tattooist.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Not even... Like, one letter?

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I definitely don't. He's a hero because he's innocent and stood bravely against abusive treatment by the state. Too much fuckery for me to believe even hard evidence presented before my eyes. We know when we're being fucked with.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you were a juror you would have to consider the facts of the case though for sure 👀

[–] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's why making sure potential jurors are educated on jury nullification, how it works, and how to not be prematurely dismissed as a juror is so important.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I don’t know what that is and I’m not really a big fan of learning new things

[–] Djinn_Indigo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Basically it means that you can return whatever verdict you want as long as you don't say something stupid like "I don't actually believe this by the way."

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t really believe in that type of stuff 👀

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't believe in the public being part of the decision making about which laws are just? That's part of democracy.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

Lol, don't feed the troll, matey.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Find one person, and I mean one that isn't skewed by knowing the context of the case. Jury nullification is the correct course when it's very, very clear that the prosecution is acting in bad faith. I have no idea the facts, I do know the prosecution is lying about the narrative because we're not stupid.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know nothing about this case, they should choose me 👀

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They choose a pool of jurors randomly. You don't need to pretend to be uninformed until you're in the room (unless you comment under your real name), where they select the actual jurors after each side has excluded some

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He didn't do it.

And if he did, god bless that real patriot.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

He who saves his country has committed no crime.

[–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 days ago