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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They live abroad and the cost of sending text messages abroad is not insignificant

Signal is free just like whats app. For text, calls, and video. So that isn't a problem.

I too have friends and family in different countries, one of which is crazy about whatsapp. I simply tell them this is how we are going to do things now, and walk them through it. It is not hard. If they can't do it, well then we don't need to communicate this way. Whatsapp is not an option. It is that simple.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Signal is not capable of SMS and quite a lot of people still use it.

yes, i know SMS isn't secure at all. but if the option is "keep in touch with close family" or "don't keep in touch" they will probably choose the former if they want to keep that.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would rather SMS than use WhatsApp. But even then if my family is far away, why am texting them at all very often? With the time zone differences I'll call or email, or nothing. It's weird how people got along just fine with letters that took weeks and suddenly we now need instant communication for some reason?

[–] Nima@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we used to be fine with candles and stinky lanterns filled with perfectly good kerosene too. who tf needs electricity? 🤨

on the topic of family connection, I can't speak to your family experience. only my own. and our family group chat is pretty damn active.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you get everyone to settle on the same thing, like Signal? We are spread out over about 8 countries, and with all the different phone numbers and plans, we use various methods, with several of us on Signal. Some on whatsapp, some on messenger. So we are not coordinated enough for a group chat. Which is fine, I dont really need to know everything all the time, we catch up when can, or get into small video chats occasionally. Luckily we do tend to physically see each other somewhat frequently.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no we are all on different platforms. half are on android and half are on apple which is irritating. so sadly the sms is our best tool to hit everyone at the same time with any urgency.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

sms is not even an option for us; international texting costs a lot. Some people don't even use a phone, they rely on internet connected devices only. Trying to coordinate all of this gets complicated fast.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 1 points 10 hours ago

weirdly my first thought just now was "wouldn't it be cool if we could federate this somehow". have a single (or a handful) of secure communication protocol(s) so that users could just choose the app with the UI they liked best and be done with it.

...then I realized I just essentially invented matrix and that already exists. lol. but yeah the issue is getting everyone to the same place.

its impossible to get some people to move from a platform they've used for over a decade in most cases.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

How is that weird? You can be fine with suboptimal stuff, and recognize it's suboptimal. Some people like their relatives and wished they could talk together more readily. Letters were just the fastest (while economical) method of doing that for a while.