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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Sounds like some young people who haven't been through this before. This is not going to lead to a war. The USA has been bombing other countries continuously for decades.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I dont see how it isnt a war already, this kind of thing is an act of war after all, and the other side doesnt have to be capable of equal retaliation for the term to apply.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It doesn't really matter what you call it. W. and Obama normalized not declaring war on the countries you bomb. Unless the US plans to invade, it won't be a war in the traditional sense of the word.

[–] pissnshitworldwide@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US hasn't declared war since 1942. It goes back way further than W or Obama.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

what was declared during korea or vietnam?

[–] pissnshitworldwide@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Korea was a UN "police action" and Vietnam was a "conflict."

Crucially, Congress did not formally declare war in either case, nor did they for the Gulf war, Afghanistan, Iraq, Grenada, etc.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago

No, what it is is a war. What it is declared is whatever works best for the politicians. It's semantics, but there were no declarations by any officials.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

Korea was technically a UN peacekeeping effort. It was just led and mostly done by the US. Vietnam was just the US giving South Vietnam a "little" help. It was called a troop deployment.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Might be the toughest opponent we've bombed since Iraq, which technically wasn't a declared war either.

You're absolutely right, this won't likely get bad for Americans. Being so far away with a huge military insulates us from the consequences of our actions abroad.

[–] alliswell33@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Almost like we are the baddies

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Bestween this and Yemen, Palestine, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Guatemala, Chile, Cuba, Indonesia, Timor, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea you'd almost start to think that. I wonder how many countries the real baddies have attacked. Must be way more.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being so far away with a huge military insulates us from the consequences of our actions abroad.

Until it doesn't, though.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, certainly. Only an utter imbecile would attempt symmetrical warfare with the U.S.

Asymmetric is the only way to go, and non-attributability would be the ideal.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

There are different levels of bombing. This wasn't the US assassinating a single general. This was a strike on strategic assets comparable to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. We just did a Pearl Harbor against Iran.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

yeah a lot of over reacting going on around here

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

...this is... war?.... you want troops on the ground? Careful what you wish for.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

you want troops on the ground?

Genuinely don't know what reality you're living in if you are typing this question after reading my comment.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe their meaning was, 'Do you have to see boots on the ground before you call it a war?', not accusing you personally of wanting war.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thank you for clarifying.

My only point with my original comment is that people are freaking out as though this is about to be Iraq War take 3. I see no evidence of that. It would require an invasion.

I mean how many dozens of times have we done something similar to this without anything becoming of it? Didn't Trump literally assassinate an Iranian general during his last term?

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh. So this is just Tuesday. I guess you should call Iran and tell them. They will be so relieved.