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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I hate that 2/3 of my fellow citizens support this, either directly or or tacitly by choosing not to vote.

I really hope the protest/non voters are happy with the outcome they chose. I can't wait to hear them tell me that Harris would have done this too! Anything to justify intentionally causing the suffering of more people....

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

"What we need to do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to be a nuclear power, that is one of my highest priorities,” she added.

Whitaker followed up, asking, “If Iran is building a nuclear weapon, would you take military action?”

“I’m not going to talk about hypotheticals at this moment,” said the vice president.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bombing the shit out of the Middle East is the only bipartisanism the US has ever reached, therefore yes, a Democrat would have had to bomb something because that's what US presidents do. Anyway, keep on blaming voters instead of holding the party accountable for its mistakes.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Don't blame the voters who elected the president" is the sort of argument I'd expect from someone intentionally ignoring that he bombed nuclear sites.

BoTh SiDeS arguments are stupid and people who make them should be ignored. Like I said, anything to justify your bad choice.

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Both sides arguments are actually pretty enlightened. You can have criticisms of both candidates and vote for harm reduction. If anything the inability to criticize both sides for where they are the same is the same type of belligerent as MAGA. Harris running on building a fucking wall was a fucking disgrace.

But fuck not blaming voters for their stupid fucking decisions and fuck the sham of a democracy the US electoral system is. FPTP and WTA elections in the modern age are a fucking disgrace as well as no equal representation and voting with money.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

I didn't make a choice. I don't live in the US. But my country is strewn with US military bases and it wasn't Trump who put them there.

Trump is simply more ignorant about how a US president should bomb the shit out of Middle Eastern countries, but don't act like he invented anything.

And yes, on some things "both sides suck" because the US have been terrorizing other countries for decades.

They bring desolation and have the gall of calling it peace.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You are the problem please leave the country.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm not the one who helped let a Nazi win. I'm doing what I can, but I can't change things with citizens who ignore how the system works and choose to sit out and let this shit happen.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You are. You continue. Please actually do something or leave.

How the system works

I don't think I'm the one who's been ignoring that.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Voting doesn't mean shit. I'm sick of arguing with bluemaga. Fuck it. Fight or get out. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to lick your copmommy's boots.

If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I’m sick of arguing with bluemaga

then don't.

Take your own advice and go fight or get out or whatever. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to do whatever it is you think they should be doing for you and go do the thing yourself.

If fighting fasch were so important, you wouldn't be indoors on lemmy telling people to leave.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 23 hours ago

go fight

No that sounds scary. I don't want to go outside! There's robbers and stuff out there!

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.

Any compromise other than voting for the Democrats, you mean. Clearly that's a compromise too far for plenty here.

Or just any policy compromise. Don't suck so much billionaire dick, 20% less enthusiasm with the genocide, do something about the cops, whatever. I don't need everything.