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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What you are proposing would start a North American war deadlier than any that has ever been seen. Everyone thought Texas was dumb for talking about secession, but now that other states don’t want to be part of the union, people act like it is a serious idea. It isn’t. Never has been.

In the words of Ben Franklin, “we must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”

[–] psychadlligoat@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone knew Texas talking about it was dumb because they're not self sufficient

California actually is, and if we're hated by the rest of the country anyway, we'll just go ahead and leave. Let the rest states have fun paying for shit without us

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

Define self sufficient.

California is not self sufficient in my opinion. They may have a lot of money, but they rely heavily on interstate commerce and trade routes for their prosperity. Taxes and cost of living are already high, and those things would explode if cut off from trade. The federal government won’t hesitate to use their leverage to keep other countries from supporting the newly declared independence of California.

Texas is not self sufficient either, but I’m not advocating for their secession.

Put simply, we need fewer borders, not more of them. Any state that thinks they can take their money and run will find themselves brutalized by the federal government, taxed to oblivion by neighboring states, and experiencing an exodus of companies who are based there. It is the path to destruction, not liberation.