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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)

submitted 2 days ago by Mihies@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev

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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

Fascists and Nazis
Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
“Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] HER0@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Personally, the main thing keeping me on Xorg is support for global keybinds. Plasma and GNOME both have support for the XDG portal which mostly addresses this, but apps still needs to adopt it. Plasma also has a workaround for global keybindings, but I don't use that. Sway doesn't have any good solutions for this last time I checked.

Overall, I like Wayland more but I need support for global keybindings for at least a couple programs I regularly use.

[–] U@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago

Same.

I'm solely usually keyboard, activating the windows I'm constantly using through shortcuts. Not having them is a big no no.

I also need to record live streams on OBS, and last time I tried the target windows couldn't be detected.

Also, I rely on many small X programs thenhanc little things that, together, are all part of my workflow. Most of them are not available on Wayland, and those that are are crippled due to Wayland's limitations.

Ultimately, these discussions are pointless. Some Waylanders don't understand there's more to computer use than just running the latest hardware/software. Ideally, both protocols would coexist, allowing a broader range of choice. But X11ers in return being offensive to Waylanders is not admissable.