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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 102 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I get the vague impression that this is meant to subtly influence western society into believing that the masses aren’t truly people, that only the ones steering our collective wheels are actually human. Green arrow basically said as much for like… 5 seasons. Then it got weirder.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

There's no conspiracy. It's just people being lazy about good writing.

Also it doesn't happen just in western society. There are plenty of asian movies which fall in the same problem.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 50 points 1 day ago

There were a few moments in the Marvel Universe. Spider-Man even had his first movie based off the common man and results of super hero actions to create new baddies. But the one that stands out to me is in Iron Man 3, where Tony is going to fire on one of the bad guys in the compound and the guy throws down his gun and says, "Honestly, I hate working here. They are so weird."

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I get the vague impression that this is meant to subtly influence western society into believing that the masses aren’t truly people

Tinfoil hat theory would be that the evil leaders of real life (the ceos, the billionaires, etc) are planting the seeds so that if their plans fail and a revolution comes, they won't be summarily executed

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 18 points 1 day ago

What of they don't have to intentionally plant seeds? They just cancel anything that makes their power fantasy uncomfortable? :3

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you imagine?

“For the crimes of economy-scale larceny, murder, environmental collapse, bribery, tax evasion, and, uhh, sexual battery of a pack of golden retrievers, how do you plea?”

“C’mon, I’m just a little guy!”

“D’aww”

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not an expert, but I'm like five-nines certain a guillotine does not make a "D'aww" sound when activated.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We could build that in. Glue on some googly eyes too.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

A nice clownly guffaw right before impact would be delightful.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Nah it's just shit writing. Occam's razor and all that.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That show was so damn weird. Felt like the writers were trapped on an island where they were forced to keep writing about the island

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

“The island is all that we know, and we write what we know. Send help.”

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Arrow only ran for 2 seasons and a brief 9-episode third season. Such a shame he got shanked and thrown off a mountain to end the series.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get the vague impression that this is meant to subtly influence western society into believing that the masses aren’t truly people,

Well, people can think two things at once. And whilst people may think that non-fleshed out nameless movie henchmen "aren't truly people", I don't think they apply the same standard to random people irl.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

The abundance of people voting against their interests around the world, both historically and presently, seemingly solely to spite a specific group, was what initially spurred the thought. There has to be dehumanization at some step in the process and something to spur and reinforce it.

Do I believe that terribly written media is the sole impetus for the US falling apart? No. But I do see symptoms in random places.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

By story logic, the henchmen really weren't "true people", but metaphors for environment difficulties. For example, a young adult watching superhero comics would think of homeworks, social media negativities, etc.