Asklemmy

49466 readers

478 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

Open-ended question
Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

Lemmyverse: community search
sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
!lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 6 years ago

MODERATORS

What other things have options where everything is so bad that it's a matter of "what sucks the least" rather than "what's the best"? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by lemuria@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

37 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 days ago

They are all very good ways of framing the current system as the only system, one which you must just accept.

They're all also very good ways of understanding the system. How do you fight an autocratic dictatorship if you don't know what that is?

I literally painted an outline above of what it looks like, not just in my mind but in reality. The Muslim/leftist community drew a line on the Gaza genocide, and the Democrats crossed it. The Muslim/leftist community then worked together to make it known that the Democrats were now our enemy for crossing said line

I saw. Consequently, the fast fascists won and made the Gaza genocide worse. I'm not sure how you can frame that as a positive result for Gaza.

The Democrats can either cross back, or they can continue their fascist march, while you defend them.

I'm not defending them, I'm advocating the leaser evil while not-evil is still too disorganized to gain power. It's not enough for Democrats to lose, because the alternative is worse. If there is no alternative positioned to win, Democrats are still better than Republicans.

You must exit the slide because if you don't you will inevitably find yourself supporting fascism, just like how the democratic party defenders are defending Genocide, something I'm sure you all thought would be a solid line only a few years ago. But you crossed it, and will continue to cross any other lines until we reach full implemented fascism, at which point you will wonder why "nobody resisted"...

Too late, we're there. Neo-liberals weren't pure enough, so now we have brown shirts and concentration camps. You haven't actually outlined the alternative, all you're doing is saying that lesser evil isn't good enough. There is no good option with prospects to succeed, so refusing to support lesser evil just ensures a victory by the greater evil. And here we are.

It's not enough to oppose both evils. You need to have a good to replace them. If your good has no chance, you just empower the greater evil. Where is your good alternative with the power to win?