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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So what about how first hand account where he mentions having the corresponding newspaper clippings is without merit?

What the fuck does that have to do with the criticism?

"Malcolm X talked about infighting amongst Civil Rights leaders and had newspaper clippings of this; therefore, MLK Jr. was a filthy shitlib and a figurehead who achieved nothing"?

What the fuck

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

So you think Kennedy just magically out of the goodness of his heart passed the civil rights bill. Why did that happen your account. Malcolm lays out a clear logical reason. You have yet to engage with the substance of his argument.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So you think Kennedy just magically out of the goodness of his heart passed the civil rights bill. Why did that happen your account. Malcolm lays out a clear logical reason. You have yet to engage with the substance of his argument.

Okay, I see you're carrying on an argument with the imaginary friend in your head, completely divorced from anything being typed here. You have fun with that.

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did you even read what Malcolm X said?

He lays out a clear record of why the civil rights bill was actually passed. I can look up the newspaper headlines showing MLK and other civil rights leaders were busy arguing and fundraising when grassroots leaders were inciting people and it was at that time when Kennedy announced the bill. I That is the exact kind of action MLK would have never endorsed and that is why he was the enemy according to Malcolm. That is the substance of his argument.

Do you care to engage with it or not?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That is the exact kind of action MLK would have never endorsed and that is why he was the enemy according to Malcolm

ML "The riot is the language of the unheard" K Jr.?

Jesus fucking Christ.

He lays out a clear record of why the civil rights bill was actually passed

Okay, I see you’re carrying on an argument with the imaginary friend in your head, completely divorced from anything being typed here. You have fun with that.

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you read it you would know thats not the kind of action Malcolm was advocating.

revolution is bloody

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If you read it you would know thats not the kind of action Malcolm was advocating.

So which is it? Is Malcolm X, in your view, saying that civil unrest caused the Civil Rights Act, or is he saying that it was insufficient to cause the Civil Rights Act?

Or, most likely, are you living in an alternate reality of your own fantasy wherein there was a revolution that caused the Civil Rights Act after overthrowing Congress?

The answer from you, of course, I realize full well will be "Whatever I need to say to continue upholding my asinine position with no relation to reality."

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For crying out loud. Read or listen to the speech. It is such a simple argument I assumed someone who is into history would understand it by now.

His argument is there is no such thing as a nonviolent revolution. He directly links the violent protests in several towns to the passage of the civil rights bill. I have no idea where you are getting overthrowing congress.

So if you disagree with that can you tell me why the civil rights act was passed when it was passed. There is no gotcha or anything here. Im genuinely curious your reasoning.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

His argument is there is no such thing as a nonviolent revolution.

Which is not only asinine and disproven by historical fact, but utterly irrelevant to the issue of MLK Jr., who explicitly presented his movement as the alternative to brewing violence, as shown by the quote on riots that you dismissed and are now reversing your position on.

I have no idea where you are getting overthrowing congress.

What the fuck do you think a revolution is.