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It's not free. We all work to lift up the most vulnerable people in our society. I am very thankful to be an able bodied person that pays taxes. I'll never look down upon anyone that needs to use public assistance.
I'm sick and fucking tired of Republicans talking about welfare queens.
Meanwhile these assholes suck off the public teat and do nothing to give back to anyone except the donor class.
I think you maybe didn't understand my point. It seems like you drank from the right wing talking points fire hose.
I think you missed this person's point- he is calling the politicians (aka this idiot) the useless ones. They help no one and only take away from the vulnerable and make things worse for those they are supposed to help. The comment agreed with you
You're correct. I took the comment the other way. My apologies.
I think you misread
I think you're misunderstanding. He's saying Republican states that hate welfare are usually the welfare states that need the most funding and then the only money they want to give back, it's to ultra millionaire conservatives who parrot the welfare Queen rhetoric.
You missed my point. This guy (and plenty of other Republican assholes like him) is saying that only "productive" members of society deserve to live a healthy life while producing nothing but misery for most of the people they were elected to represent and are supposed to be helping. They are the true "welfare queens." They live off of taxpayer money and contribute nothing to taxpayers.
You definitely misread. Re-read their comment in context to yours.
This. And when we lift people up, it generally helps get people out of poverty and become contributing members of society.
It's not a hand out, it's a hand up. And for those that dgaf about helping their neighbors, it also is generally cheaper to help people once and get them squared away, vs being screwed up for life, committing crimes and using up tax dollars on police/justice/jail/cleanup resources.
In short, literally everyone should be on the same page. It's the moral and economically right thing to do, lol.
Exactly. I tell people all the time I am happy to pay taxes and heck I’d even pay more in taxes, but what I want is for everybody to pay their fair share.
I don’t even know how it’s become so radical these days. We’ve got governments around the world being elected and saying governments can’t be trusted so let’s give it all to corporations.
It's "free at time of service" which is an important distinction. Everyone in a community contributes in some way to fire services. The fire brigade doesn't ask for payment before they arrive at the scene.
Health should not be tied to employment. You shouldn't be afraid to take care of your health because you're between jobs. I imagine that people who do visit doctors regularly have better health and as a result lower healthcare costs. If you have to worry about how you're going to pay for it you're less likely to go.
I pay a fair amount to cover my family and pay a fair bit more in taxes if it meant that I didn't have to worry about my employment to get coverage or knew that my child would be covered in the future.