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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.


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[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You can't make an "affordable" electric SUV. The vast majority of the cost of any EV is in the battery. Giving it a giant frontal area means it's inherently inefficient and the only way to make up for that it by putting more battery in it, which jacks up the price.

Give us more small electric sedans, coupes, hatchbacks, etc.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I worked at a major battery company for 11 years. You're wrong. If you produce them in enough volume they're practically free. Less than the cost of an internal combustion engine. I'm not a Tesla fan, but their entire cost model is built on mass producing 18650 batteries.

Transporting refined fossil fuels from countries half way around the world is way less efficient and costly. Electric vehicles aren't going to defeat climate change, but I'm so sick of hearing pushback against them. They're at least better than ICE vehicles because batteries are 100% recyclable, and the electricity used to charge them can come from renewable sources.

Roll coal in your illegally modified truck all you want, but this is the future.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you produce them in enough volume they're practically free.

What are you talking about? They're absolutely not.

Transporting refined fossil fuels from countries half way around the world is way less efficient and costly.

No one is talking about fossil fuels?

Electric vehicles aren't going to defeat climate change, but I'm so sick of hearing pushback against them.

Roll coal in your illegally modified truck all you want

I think you may have replied to the wrong comment. I did not "push back against electric vehicles", I advocated for smaller, more affordable ones.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks to your reply, I'm leaving Lemmy. This is such an insular doomsaying community that can't hear anything that conflicts with their world view. I came here as a reddit refugee when Spez decided he liked money more than anything, but I'm not going to be berated by people with closed minds. Have a nice life.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Glad to hear it, this community could use less toxic users.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

I thought you were leaving?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the rocket equation.

all my homies hate the rocket equation

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Haven't heard of that before but yeah, kinda. Although it's more about aerodynamics than weight.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It does look fairly big, so it's going to be expensive as you've explained.

Some places take the weight of vehicles into account to compute incentives, giving less subsidies for heavier cars. One way or another it should be factored in.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By "some places" you mean some countries?

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's awesome, you almost never see the US incentivizing small vehicles. Actually have been doing the opposite for a long time with CAFE exemptions, oil subsidies, and chicken taxes.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, it's a good change, although it's recent. Vehicles sizes have increased everywhere, France included, because of SUVs. It'll take time to reverse. At the same time the overall budget for EVs incentives was reduced, so it's a mixed bag.