There were. There aren't anymore because it's a fundamentally anti intellectual movement. Their analyses all amount to a shallow disdain for complexity and contrivance to baffle shitlibs into alliance.

saying someone is less human

Again, not a distinction im making or care about. This is not meaningful to me Who are you arguing with? Is this just action for the sake of action on your part?

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

There were. There aren't anymore

Example: Jordan Peterson.

There are many others.

Don't underestimate your enemy my friend. Just because the ones in the foreground are low IQ screaming idiots doesn't mean the quiet ones behind the curtains are low IQ too.

It's not about intellect per se. It's about empathy. Take a sociopath for example. They can be highly intellectual but their goal will justify any means because they lack any form of it.

I'm not saying intellect has nothing to do with the rise of fascism, because fascists are very good at manipulating low IQ people with disinformation. These low IQ people, the heard, won't see the harm they do because that would drive their support away so it's all being hidden and twisted.

But the core of the rise of fascism is definitely planned by intellectual people and you should not underestimate that.

Don't just look at the skinheads on the street. Look at the people funding fascist tyrants.

Again, not a distinction im making or care about. This is not meaningful to me Who are you arguing with? Is this just action for the sake of action on your part?

We were talking about dehumanizing people, weren't we?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

...im being kind of an ass now that you are sort of engaging. Sorry about that. Spoiled by the previous bits of the discussion.

But i think there's another element to this that you're missing: why does a person start becoming a fascist? Whats the value, internally and discursively, of various models?

Here's some facts that might seem disconnected. Follow along. Promise it's going somewhere.

Studies show; brains prone to authorotarian psychology tend to have a much stronger disgust response.

It tends to flow from someone who is absolutely not special in any positive way feeling a need to see themselves as special/heroic/virtuous.

It comes in part from a need to have a prestigious identity while being individually kind of a piece of shit. From needing to see one's self as good but finding no good in one's self beyond membership in a group that can be collectively valorized (however dishonestly; the imperative matters, truth does not).

Erasing any potentially positive identity a potential fascist could subsume itself into, driving home that its something you would have your day ruined if ypu stepped in, and pointing how how it's pitiful disgusting and weak, could potentially save lives. There would still be structural issues to address, of course, but right now we have an immediate problem to solve.

It might even have some preventative value to find people showing early symptoms, when they may still be people, and pinning them down, spraying them with antifungal 'antifascist' drugs, via the placebo effect.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 21 hours ago

jordan peterson

No, you said intellectuals. He's exactly what i described. Please read what i wrote before replying.

there are many others

You couldn't name one.

IQ

Clown shit

empathy

I have explored that system, stared into that abyss. Im aware of how it works, and it is not, in the ways that matter to me; a person. I can get my ass kicked by the computer in a 30 year old video game. Doesn't make it a person.

planned by intellectuals

Even uf you stretched the definition to inclhde ghouls like gingrich and bannon; they're not entirely welcome in those spaces anymore

funders

Yeah they're rich; not smart. Different. Arguably exclusive.

we were talking about

Scroll up.

talking like jordan peterson all day

So....