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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

TBF, we're the ones who've always known "water" isn't "wet", it does the wettening. πŸ€·πŸΌβ€β™‚οΈ

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, but it's the idiom for that and is why I put it in quotes. Not all idioms make logical sense.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The fact remains.

FYI, many modern idioms are bullshit shadows of their original phrasing, (eg. "Blood is thicker...", "Great minds...", "Birds of a feather...", etc.) and arguing that they're fine as-is smacks more of anti-intellectualism (if not outright laziness) than anything meaningful. πŸ™‡πŸΌβ€β™‚οΈ

[–] raresbears@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

at least for blood is thicker the β€œfull version” is actually most likely newer than the one you’re complaining about. it’s almost as though people use language to say what they want to say. nothing anti-intellectual about that

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But that's how language works. Things mean what the majority of people say they mean. Otherwise, everyone would still be using the n word because it wouldn't have a negative meaning. It's about communication, not absolute logic.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just because the horizon exists doesn't mean every path toward it is equal in value. Logical fallacy aside, you seem to agree that improvement as a species is a worthy goal, and maybe even a personal obligation to promote such.

Language works a lot of ways. Don't let laziness and cognitive ambivalence hold the reins of linguistic morphology.

[–] raresbears@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

in what way is calling water wet laziness or cognitive ambivalence? it’s not like wetness is something that just exists in the world prior to our construction of it

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry, did you just imply that wetness depends on observation to exist?

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope I don't agree. Language has meaning to people, and has no obligation to past meanings or logic. If it did then we wouldn't have been able to reclaim the use of the word gay which has changed meanings multiple times just in my lifetime.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

Oh, please, say more. 😢

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[–] causepix@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You don't "know" shit, you just made that up to feel smart. Water as a substance is fucking wet, and before you challenge me you should know that we both have the same disorder.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, sweetie. Aw. You're way ahead of me there. Much wow. Move along, please.

[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lmfao if you took this seriously I'm sorry for you but also gfy

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You dance? That backpedal looks practiced.

[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago

But also, since you've been so pleasant and asked so nicely,

A single molecule of water is not wet but as soon as more than one molecule is present the water is then wet. If there are a substantial number of molecules, then you have the substances that we know as water and ice.

The molecules themselves also are not solid or liquid, that has to do with the behavior of the molecules in dimensional space. At the level of everyday language, we are talking about substances, and generally when we refer to water we are talking about it as a liquid substance.

Most liquid substances you could easily mix with water are themselves water-based and therefore would be totally dried up into a powder or perhaps a jelly without their water content. To add water is to make them wet, and then they exist as a wet incorporated substance. In fact, they could not dry up if they were not wet in the first place; to become dry is to transition away from the state of being wet.

You know what else dries up? Water.

[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I stand by what I said? Just letting you know that I did so in a playful manner. Go troll somewhere else pls thx.