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[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The United States provides security guarantees for most of the western world. That was the entire point of post-WWII reconstruction.

The US will provide security guarantees. Participating countries will provide free market access to their citizens.

- The Marshall Plan

The US has been in a position to overspend (proportionally) on defense due to having the strongest economy basically since WWII. Other countries are able to invest in their own economy, innovation or infrastructure without needing to spend money on defense.

Ignoring any Trump jingoism, look at NATO expenditures. These countries agreed to a certain level of spending based on their GDP so the US wasn’t the sole guarantor, but no one met their obligations for decades.

The United States provides security guarantees for most of the western world

This is just American exceptionalism. The west hasn't waged a "defensive" war since 1945, all it's done with its militaries is destroy other countries: Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or Yugoslavia are just a few examples that come to mind, tens of millions of lives lost and tens of millions more ruined just in these conflicts.

The world would be a far, far, FAR better place if the west didn't have this level of military capabilities.

[–] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The US is completely free to reduce their spending to match the rest of NATO but does not.

[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago

We can make an argument about net expenditures.

Is the US carrying too much of the burden? If that is true AND the US wants to reduce its spending, then other nations need to increase theirs to keep the net expenditure close to before.

Let’s hand wave discussions on waste in procurement (a big issue for the US DOD). Same as we’ll hand wave the veteran benefits portion of expenditures.

If we don’t see that commensurate expenditure, then what becomes of the NATO security guarantee?

We can’t be naive enough to expect all adversaries to make similar reductions in their military spending.