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[โ€“] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I do all this already haha but getting to zero is quite the challenge in a consumer society. Still need to buy food, clothes, pay rent, etc.

[โ€“] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 22 hours ago

Money and trade are not exclusive to capitalist society. Division of labor is just a good idea in improving productivity and you somehow need to distribute that. The problem with that is doing so in a fair manner, which is where capitalism fails. To be fair nothing is ever going to be perfect, but capitalism giving to capitalist is just inherintly exploiting.

So to actually consume ethically, we need system change. It is usually more productive to change a small part of the system, which then improves the situtation for a lot of people in a small way, then to try to improve everything for you. So stuff like starting a cooperative, union work, making the government buy up certain businesses and so forth, is how that is done. You then hope/know that others will do it in other areas as well. Obviously joing those projects helps as well. So being a customer at a cooperative bakery or becoming a member of a credit union for example.