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Independent Senator Bernie Sanders floated Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a potential presidential candidate in the 2028 elections, saying that even though it's "her decision to make," she is a "very, very good politician."

Speaking to Axios, Sanders said that he has been "out on the streets with her" and noticed how she responds when people come up to her. "It's so incredibly genuine and open."

Ocasio-Cortez is seemingly positioning herself to run for higher office, whether it is challenging Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for his seat or to make a run for president.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sorry to be crass, but fuck that. Is anyone excited about the generic geriatric white male candidate? Tons of people love AOC and Bernie, too, for that matter. I think we need a candidate that actually inspires people. Someone that people want to vote for, volunteer for, canvas for, etc. Maybe I'm just a dreamer, though.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey man, I’m with you. This sucks a lot.

This situation is fucking terrible. Personally, I’d prefer Bernie would run himself, but he clearly doesn’t want to (and given his age, I can’t blame him).

To be completely honest, though, he’s got sort of a bad track record of backing other candidates, so if he’s endorsing AOC, that’s even more evidence she won’t win.

I agree with him on most things, and I’d absolutely back him as a candidate like 10 years ago, but he’s not a kingmaker. I wish we lived in a better world, but we don’t. Our world is fucking awful, politically speaking.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Frankly, I’ll vote for any democrat that challenges Trump. My logic is that only the Democratic Party has ANY actual shot at winning, so whether it’s AOC, Bernie, or he’ll even Vermin Supreme if they put him on the ballot. I will vote for a fucking brick if it’s a democrat and challenges Trump. It almost certainly cannot get worse.

Edit: and before people say Trump won’t be on the ballot in 2028… I wouldn’t be so sure about that lol. You hear/see the shit this guy says/does?

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

and before people say Trump won’t be on the ballot in 2028… I wouldn’t be so sure about that lol.

I think a large part of the problem is that he likely won’t be. He’s not in charge now, and once he dies in office, people will think the danger has passed.

The issue is people think trump is the cause rather than a symptom.

In 2028, especially if he’s dead and his grave is the county’s biggest toilet, many people will breathe a sigh and think everything has gone back to normal, ignoring that the real fascists are still in control. That will be when it becomes truly dangerous.

Trump is not in charge, and things will not change when he’s gone, but most people will think everything is fine then, and will go back to ‘politics as normal’.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yep. People like Curtis Yarvin and Thiel and Musk and "JD" are quite a bit younger than the pedo-in-chief.

The donor class that supported the construction of all the systems of radical right wing epistemic closure, long before Taco came along, are not going away, and neither is their money. And neither are those systems. If anything, those systems are being honed and perfected to be even worse than ever before (cable and local news are nothing compared to things like TikTok for being able to control minds).

People might think that Gen Y or Gen Z will be pissed off to make real changes, but I don't believe it, for two reasons. One is that I've seen the same claims made about boomers and Gen X. The second is that Gen Y and Gen Z are poised to be the biggest beneficiaries of the largest wealth transfer in history. I seriously doubt that will radicalize them, and there is not much evidence of any kind of a big progressive swell in either of them as-is.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You’re right, but more to the point: they’ve largely solidified changes to the system via Project 2025 that will take decades to reverse, if they can be reversed at all.

I’m not talking about philosophical or ideological changes, but real, tangible changes to laws that are impervious to differences in who’s president or what the political landscape is.

The damage is largely done now. Even if by some miracle of the electorate going against everything that’s ever happened in the history of the nation and defying people’s nature and misogyny and whatever, AOC was somehow elected, it will take decades to begin to fix this.

The fact that people don’t understand this only solidifies my assessment that there’s no chance she could be elected. People simply do not understand the current political climate.

I wish this pipe dream could be true, because that would be a much better world than the one in which we live.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump is not the cause, but he made it possible for these people to take power

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, in the same way a cut allows you to get a staph infection.

But a hangnail or certain kinds of sex at a bad time can do that, too.

Trump is just the method of delivery. Staph was always there, waiting for an opportunity.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Walz actually would have me a little excited. He seems like a great person and a solid candidate.

I'd be more excited for AOC. It's possible she wouldn't have a chance, but if the will of the American people keeps disappointing, then at some point we have to hang it up and say we deserve what we get.

If we can't vote in a woman at this point, then maybe the experiment really is over.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago

A woman will not win in America, probably for the next 40 years at least.

Bernies too old.