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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, "Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND."

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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

A huge problem with public transportation is safety and usability for small children, the elderly, and people with disabilities or who are sick. All these people often can't use bikes or scooters. They have problems with having to wait standing and constantly out of order escalators and elevators.

I don't own a car and live in a place with relatively good public transportation. That's the biggest problem I see, next to how badly organised it is (at least here in Germany).

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

One of the leading causes of death for children in North America is from cars. Well funded and built transit should be accessible to all in their urban areas. Stops should have sheltered waiting areas with adequate and maintained seating. Good maintanence and funding would reduce equipment failures in elevators and other equipment. Ideally we densify around this transit as well which would help to reduce travel distances for people with movement disabilties and promote walkability. 95% of the time well designed and funded transit paired with good urban density and zoning will be more accessible to those with disabilities than private vehicle ownership.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Federalism is the key impediment to a sensible transportation policy, though. Corpo stakeholders drive sprawl. Developers have legislatures captured to a degree that exceeds even the gun lobby. 50 different state governments, with thousands of local governments, with a federal government that is unable to plan beyond the next election - the US is fucked. There are way too many entry points for bad faith actors to wreck a good plan. More opportunities for direct democracy and recall could help, plus rank-choiced voting, plus dosing the water with Wellbutrin to turn off people's worry about supernatural bullshit, and we might get somewhere.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I agree fully.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Good maintanence and funding would reduce equipment failures in elevators and other equipment.

Thnk you! You said line nobody says. You are hero of your city.

[–] Beliriel@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is an organizational problem because my country next to it has all those things at just about every train stop (Switzerland).

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Even in a country it depends on the state or city. In Munich and even around Tegernsee in Bavaria they have it better organised than in some places here in NRW. It's because so many different private companies are responsible.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Elderly people use electric mobility scooters at Disney literally all the time. They're pretty great for the elderly so long as there's accessability ramps everywhere.

Escalators and elevators being out of service seems like an issue of lack of investment in public transit.

And cities can be built around public transit and micromobility while still allowing cars. Generally, you'll have better access for emergency vehicles, and you can do the same for people with disabilities.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

I feel like people misunderstand my post. That it is a lack of investment is 100 % true. I want more investment and better public transport. People here seem to think I want to have cars, but that's not my point?!

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A big problem with car-heavy streets is everyone’s safety when the elderly are driving on them.

It’s also shown that if people live in walkable neighborhoods, they get more exercise and can get used to movement even in old age.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I literally see the struggle of the people I talked about everyday. In a walkable city with public transportation.

Criticising aspects of public transport also doesn't mean I am against it or pro cars.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's definitely not a problem everywhere. The buses we use in Canada are very disability friendly and we have programs to teach kids how to ride the bus alone. We have bike racks on the front of our buses too, so we can combine modes of transportation.

The biggest problem with public transit over here is lack of funding and infrastructure. The bus system is intentionally kept shitty here so that people will opt to buy cars where possible.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Here the public transit was sold to private companies by the government. It still costs a huge sum of money but they have less strict laws when it comes to accessibility. The government is very much a boot licker of the car industry here and Germany in general has a weird car culture.

"Barely functioning" is good enough for public transport, that seems to be the overall attitude, even in the general population.

People here have no trouble walking to stops and bikes / scooters are common, so the premises are there. But instead of taking the final leap and improving public transportation so that more people switch, they are currently moving backwards it seems.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

programs to teach kids how to ride the bus alone

Seems to be america-specific thing. Everyone I know just used buses since being kids just fine.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's nice, not everyone lived in the city as kids and not everyone is comfortable letting their young children roam the city alone. Everyone has different lives.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

A huge problem with public transportation is safety and usability for small children, the elderly, and people with disabilities

Probably because all of them can drive. Sarcasm. You just named all groups that will not get driver license. Expecially children and disabled.

They have problems with having to wait standing and constantly out of order escalators and elevators.

Everyone have to wait. Everyone hates standing. Maybe just do proper benches, maintanance of escalators or remove steps? Well, probably Germany don't have problems with last one.