How should they make money? Services and Storage cost money. Period. That has to be paid by someone. Either be it the users, or some sketchy not-giving-a-shit-about-privacy-advertising company because hosters on the usenet have to sell your data to pay for the servers.

Easy as that.

And since usenet is used for a lot of piracy, i 100% DON'T want it to be financed by shit like this. I pay for it and i know i am safe.
Don't forget. If a product is free - you are the product.

[–] xenos@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

exactly this. I'm sure some of the larger hosts easily spend six figures per month just on the server infrastructure alone

Usenet is super fast, safe, reliable, automated searching and downloading actually works. I gladly support my host

[–] RandomLegend@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

100% - i get 40MB/s on Usenet, something i could only dream about on torrents...also i am in germany, torrenting is quite risky here.

When i find something on usenet, it is there..period. I can get it. On torrents? Just because i found a magnet doesn't mean there is anyone seeding it.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't you need to spread your accounts across multiple providers due to the partial uploads in other to get a complete archive?

Last time I looked, ever the .par technology to deal with missing segments was useless. I got the impression I'd need multiple accounts to have a chance at getting a complete download

[–] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What indexer(s) are you using?

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think it was newsbin? This was years ago admittedly...

[–] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow it really was ages ago if you mention newsbin as an indexer. Nowadays, indexer usually refers to privately run services that index nzbs for you. Most require a subscription fee, but are worth it because without them you can't really find anything manually anymore since the file names are all obfuscated. This really helps prevent copyright takedowns.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I don't think there were discrete indexers.

I've missed a few rounds of cat and mouse

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

This exactly I find something on usenet it is there. And I can download at full speed.

[–] rdb@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago

No problem hitting 110MB/s on decent German private trackers. Also everything worthy to keep (like highest resolution release available in case of series and movies) has been seeded, even when it's been uploaded 10 years ago.

Which trackers did you try? 'Just because i found a magnet' sounds like you've been on public trackers?

But I'm with you, Usenet is overall less of a hassle.

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are they really? Usenet is from the 70s and build for text posts, which take less than 1kb of storage per Post. Modern Sites allow you to upload gigabytes of data for a few dollars per month. The cost for storage and traffic gas come down a lot

[–] BigTiddyGothGF@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

Doesn't really matter what it may have once been considering we're talking about using it to store and distribute large binaries of today. And yeah, six figures doesn't sound that far off the target when you consider the storage in petabytes and, more importantly, the bandwidth. Multiply that with redundancy and multiple locations in general and you'll easily hit six figures.

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