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Video from the Magura V5 attack USVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmQCQXfN_SU

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Russian sailors: Can we get CIWS to counter USV?

Russian Naval command: No, we have CIWS at home

The CIWS at home:

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The weird thing is this landing ship actually has a proper CIWS, a pair of AK-630 CIWS turrets, but I have not seen them used in any of these drone attack videos. I wouldn't be surprised if they were non-functional, like many of the armaments on the Moskva, the (sunk) Black Sea Fleet's flagship.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Depression-Elevation

+88° ... -12° (50°/sec)

+90° ... -25° (60°/sec) AK-630M-2

Might be the answer there, shooting surface vessels was likely outside the design requirements. Sea ‘skimming’ ASMs still fly tens of meters above sea level to avoid wave swell.

Hence the doubling of depression angle on the v2, but knowing Russian modernization I doubt many ships have that upgrade - yet, or ever tbh the way naval denial is shaking out. Why play the sunk cost game of naval force protection when a five to six figure suicide drone or ASM can knock out your multi-million surface combatants?

[–] Dhar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

"sunk cost" 🤭

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, fuck Russia but that was a pretty epic watch

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You gotta feel for anyone whose job on your billion-ruble warship is to be the man-portable CIWS.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While Russia is losing warships because they don't have enough close-range deck weaponry with the ability to throw enough lead downrange, some rando's project in the US being used to shoot at little UAVs for fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3FGiNRyGqg

EDIT:

https://www.twz.com/sea/russian-ship-under-drone-boat-attack-seen-in-dramatic-onboard-video

Generally, the close-in weapon systems on some of the Russian vessels that have been attacked appear to be less than effective against these novel threats.

Pithy.