If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?
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Federation.
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everything is a file including a filesystem*
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* including databases
For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.
Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out
or CSV files
git repo is blockchain
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As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.
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You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then
Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?
Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.
And files are streams. π΅ Islands in the stream. π΅
π΅ That is what we awk π΅
Theyβre more like blob storage.
Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so itβs more like blob storage is like a file system
Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.
Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.
The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.
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It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.
Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.
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That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.
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That's what federation is all about.
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Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.
I love how pacman/libalpm database is just directories with tiny little files, and itβs faster in resolving dependencies than mostly anything else
The list of reasons filesystems are not databases is a database.
And the worst FAT32
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