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Hate to break it to you but sending them job openings and code camps counts as bringing this up.

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Ok but if they are smart like OP claims they will surely already know they're unlikely to have money if they don't get a job at some point. If OP keeps bringing that up it's pretty condescending.

What if they are unhappy and working would make them unhappier?

Ok fair enough, for social interactions, board games would probably be better than video games but perhaps they are more introverted than OP.

I'm sure OP has good intentions but as others have said you can't push your vision of healthy living on others, they have to come to that conclusion themselves. Apparantly these friends are smart so likely know the health effects of a sedentry lifestyle and that's their choice.

The tone of writing is quite condescending pretending those of us that have jobs or other hobbies live in some kind of work-happy socially integrated utopia.

I think about that all the time personally and think those sort of jobs should be the highest paying.

But getting an average 40 hour per week office job is not helping those sorts of things whatsoever, it will just be increasing profit for shareholders.

"What have they done with their lives up until this point?"

Sounds like they've lived a nice if somewhat sheltered life close to their family playing games. Maybe at some point they might get bored of that or want more money and venture out into the world but that's not up to you or OP to decide/judge, it's their life.

They play games and socialise online. Why would a board game group be any better than that? In terms of exercise, that's their prerogative, I'm sure they will at some point when health issues start arising but why are you so bothered if they don't?

I could personally live quite happily without doing work. When animals are fed and watered do the get back to grafting? No, they socialise, lounge about or play. Stop trying to push your definitions of "living" on others.

"Im not judging", proceeds to judge.

These days 25 isn't that old to be living at home given extortionate rent and lack of decent job prospects. So if they had a soul-crushing job they would be "healthy" in your eyes?

Why are you so optimistic/pushy about them becoming wage slaves?

Change does not inheritantly boost an economy. If you look into what is propping up many western markets it's the AI bubble and guess what, that requires even more energy that we're currently using.

It's not a falacy, it would hurt their bottom line which is all they (and a large number of regular folk if we're honest) care about.

Quite simply profits cannot keep increasing if we are to solve the issue in time. We'd need to fundamentally change our way of living on a global scale. How exactly are you going to convince the powers that be that's a good idea?

Same here (UK). It's the prisoners' dilemma and one of the main reasons we're not going to solve this before modern civilisation as we know it collapses.

What's the point in tanking your own economy if other countries aren't following suit? Not exactly a vote winner is it.

Presumably the alien death star had "U R GAY" inscribed on the side of it? If so, 100% irrefutable proof.