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Well, fuck you, Cooler Master.

As soon as I turned my VPN off I was able to successfully send my RMA request.

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[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 26 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a specific page that lists sites/services that don't work with a VPN? Because I have at least 4 to report off the top of my head

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 3 points 4 weeks ago

I haven't gone through it much but that's a great idea

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

I think it was renamed to CAT wiki

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Won’t an RMA lead to them knowing your physical address anyway? Not sure you can stay private and get replacement gear.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You can keep some data hidden from your ISP still

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s likely bad actors causing your VPN’s public IP address to get flagged. Next time change the exit point.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's no excuse. An RMA form is something that all their customers are entitled to use. If anyone finds their IP address blocked, even a VPN IP address, then their warranty claim has effectively been blocked for an invalid reason.

The company has failed their warranty obligations.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

I think if hosting an RMA form requires paying for 500x more bandwidth than it's supposed to just because it's being hammered by bots on VPNs, and this was your company, you'd block them too.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 4 weeks ago

Yup. You can probably do it by mail, if you're so inclined.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I would rate-limit them. OP is getting a non-rate-limited block. If OP has an ISP problem where they can't access the site, this VPN may be their only option.

I think catloaf's idea is good, but no tech company accepts RMA requests by paper mail.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 4 weeks ago

I think it depends on where the bottleneck is, and what they're actually trying to prevent, as to whether or not rate-limiting would actually help anything.

If they are blocking source IP addresses explicitly, it could be for a more specific concern we're not aware of, like trying to limit the amount of email "spam" that would be sent out from automated requests. A rate-limit wouldn't fix that issue, only slow it down.

We're all also assuming any of this is even intentional on their or anyone's part.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think this holds in court. “I breached my contract with the plaintiff because other actors inconvenience me.”

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you assume that there is even a contract, and that if it did exist, it wouldn't allow this.

Going to court for this would also cost way more than the product is worth.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago

You must be from the U.S., where there are no customer rights and the law only serves the rich.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you try switching your exit point?

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

I don't use VPNs, but plenty of sites using datadome.co will arbitrarily block me at my residential ISP. datadome.co will first ask you to complete a captcha, and upon your success, you are immediately blocked with no recourse. Here's a typical screenshot: (not mine)

The "contact support" link opens a contact form that goes to a black hole. I've filled out dozens, and never gotten a response.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you sure it isn't DNS blocking by the VPN?

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

This happens to me a lot (I block Google’s domains). shakes fist Curse you Google for hosting it on google.com you tricky fucks!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a subdomain you can whitelist?

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

There’s not. It’s hosted on either google.com or www.google.com (can’t remember which). I’m pretty sure it’s intentional to get you to unblock Google.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 4 weeks ago

That is absolutely intentional