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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 227 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Wow, bold choice to ban the import of technology and knowledge. Usually governments are worried about export, so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.

Btw, how is the Nvidia stock price doing?

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 59 points 2 weeks ago

Right? Like, seriously, we all know somebody is just butthurt because their stock options tanked.

Oh, wait, I'm sorry! That was very unpatriotic of me, wasn't it? I mean, we all know that winning an election guarantees being heavily rewarded with insider trading, right? It's not like they're there to represent constituents or anything; I mean, doesn't everyone know we're a republic, not a democracy?!

Sigh...

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 115 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

now i gotta download something i don't even wanna download.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yup. Downloaded 7b, 32b, and 70b varieties this afternoon. Entirely out of spite.

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[–] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 108 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Fascist regime and power/police abuse has started.

P.S.: It seems like the US is becoming similar to Russia, kleptocratic country and organised crime in government.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

to be fair for black Americans that is a centuries old tune

[–] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 26 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, you're right

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[–] TsarVul@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 85 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)
[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this is deepseek-v3. deepseek-r1 is the model that got all the media hype: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 84 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Hawley’s statement called DeepSeek “a data-harvesting, low-cost AI model that sparked international concern and sent American technology stocks plummeting.”

data-harvesting

???

It runs offline... using open-source software that provably does not collect or transmit any data...

It is low-cost and out-competes American technology, though, true

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

sent American technology stocks plummeting

Oh yeah, thats what did it, totally

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[–] EveningPancakes@lemm.ee 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm gonna download it even harder.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is astounding.

I mean, not the Deepseek or jailing stuff. I mean a Senator actually proposing a law. I thought the way our government worked was, the annoying orange declares a vague uncited threat to be bad, and signs an executive order on it!

No, we also allow mega corporations to submit bills that get rubber stamped by a rep somewhere. I don't think a corporation would be so audacious as to submit this, so it's a rare case of original content.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's awesome! I didn't know you could download an LLM and run it locally! That's what I'm really interested in is something that's on my side and not a conduit to Google, MS or other.

I'm so glad Hawley proposed this bill or I wouldn't have known that deepseek was open source and downloadable! I'll have to go look for a download.

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[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 51 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Download the model and run locally is the most secure and privacy friendly way to use it.

It's absurd how little they know about what they are doing.

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[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wasn't thinking of downloading an AI onto my low tier computer until now.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've got a laptop kicking around from 2010 that's about to get deepseek just because they're proposing this dumb ass shit. I don't even use Gen AI.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes the ban on TikTok is working! We're getting more and more freer!!! The kids will be saved!!!! \s \s \s

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wasn't gonna, but now I gotta...

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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

God, I hate Hawley. He’s an embarrassment to my state.

He doesn’t even live in Missouri.

[–] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

So I guess it's free speech as long as you agree with the goverment's speech. If not, then it's a crime.

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[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

People like this should not be a government representative. But I guess that's the trend lately

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Print the code in a book and mail it.

Surely, they cannot ban books... right? Right?

Edit: Wait wait wait... the Comstock Act says mail cannot be used for anything that can be used for abortion. And a AI can theoretically be used to get instructions for abortion. BOOM, it's banned! 👀

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

next up: US Bill proposed to jail people who watch MSNBC US Bill proposed to jail people who watch PBS US Bill proposed to jail people who don't buy a cybertruck US Bill proposed to jail people who don't vote GOP

So much freedom, so little time.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

You wouldn't download a car and then perform all the necessary lost wax casting, pressing, punching, machining, painting etc etc. Would you?

No!

You would download a finished car!

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 28 points 2 weeks ago

Senator Josh Hawley was in his office, fumbling with a collection of outdated gadgets. His desk was cluttered with a clunky flip-phone, a ancient computer tower, and stacks of CDs labeled “Software for Dummies.” He had just been reading about this newfangled AI technology that everyone was buzzing about—though he wasn’t entirely sure what an AI was.

The phone rang, jolting him out of his thoughts. He fumbled with the flip-phone, trying to press the correct buttons to answer. When he finally managed to say “Hello,” his voice dripped with confusion.

“Senator Hawley, this is Greg from OpenAI. I wanted to discuss your proposed legislation about AI downloads,” the voice on the other end said.

Hawley leaned back in his chair, trying to look wise. “Legislation? Oh, right, that’s what they call laws these days. Something about jailing people who download stuff from China.”

Greg sighed. “It’s not just about downloading, Senator. It’s about AI models—complex software that can learn and adapt, like DeepSeek.”

Hawley’s brow furrowed. He hadn’t heard of DeepSeek before. “DeepSeek? That sounds communist to me. Probably tracking your thoughts or something.”

Greg tried to explain how AI works, but Hawley kept interrupting with questions about old technologies he thought were relevant. “So if someone downloads this AI, it’s like a CD-ROM, right? You just stick it in and hope it works?”

Greg pressed on, trying to translate the concept of cloud computing into terms Hawley might understand. “It’s more like... a virtual flip-phone that you can talk to without actually holding it.”

Hawley looked down at his desk, where his actual flip-phone was sitting. “I’m not sure I follow. Why would downloading this AI be bad?”

“Because DeepSeek is state-sponsored and could be used maliciously,” Greg said. “It’s like giving someone a modem to the Chinese government.”

Hawley brightened up. “Oh! Like that time I tried to use a dial-up connection? That was dangerous, wasn’t it? You didn’t know who was listening!”

Greg couldn’t help but laugh. “I’m not sure you’re understanding this correctly, Senator. This isn’t about phone calls or CDs—it’s about advanced algorithms that could change everything.”

Hawley stood up, clutching his flip-phone like it was a weapon. “Advanced? Sounds like the kind of thing that could be used to spy on people or start wars! Just like those CDs I tried to use once—they had some kind of communist software.”

Greg hesitated but decided to play along. “So you’re saying if someone downloads DeepSeek, they might be helping a foreign power? That’s why you want to jail them?”

Hawley nodded vigorously. “Exactly! It’s like having a modem without the filter. I propose jailing these people to protect our freedoms.”

Greg exchanged a glance with his colleague, who was now staring at him in disbelief. Finally, he said, “ Senator, this isn’t how technology works. If you jail people for downloading AI models, you’re not protecting innovation—you’re stifling it.”

Hawley squinted at Greg as if he were staring into the sun. “Stifle? I’m trying to stop something dangerous. You think I don’t know about this communist tech? I’ve seen it on the internet—full of viruses and stuff.”

Greg took a deep breath, realizing there was no way to reason with Hawley in this state. “Well, if that’s your stance, just remember: you’re not alone. There are people out there who think AI is a threat.”

Hawley smirked. “Good. People like me keep them in check.”

The call finally ended, and Greg sat back in his chair, shaking his head. “Senator Hawley is running for re-election,” he muttered to himself. “And if this bill passes, it’s going to be a nightmare.”

As for Senator Hawley, he was already back at his desk, scribbling notes about how to protect the country from “AI invasions.” He had no idea what he was up against—but one thing was certain: he was ready to fight.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago

Sooner or later we're gonna have to bypass the Great Firewall of America by VPNing into China

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because China "leveraged" US technology 20 years ago, US politicians bring it up as a current shittalking point still. Deepseek, being open source, is opportunity for Americans to gain technology transfer from China, without "stealing".

There is a desperation to protect US AI, mostly so that AI companies are indebted into serving the empire, and maybe the GOP,

Something AI is extremely capable today is deciding who to ban on reddit, or at the individual voter level, decide who should be turned away from elections. Recent US election had record voter suppression and forced provisional ballots that were never counted. Previously, black was a sufficient suppression incentive. AI makes it easy to target individuals or other factors. Musk, being praised for understanding "election machines", now with access to SS numbers and an ability to link to voters or views on Israel/genocide, is a super power that ensures being king maker in perpetuity.

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[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's only a proposed bill (thankfully), but definitely one to keep an eye on.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh, it's just virtue signaling nonsense. It's not going anywhere.

[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

that's what they said about vaguely gestures at everything

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[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's what everyone thought about Trump becoming president... Both times.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ways to self-sabotage (100% speedrun)

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the average IQ of republicans must be 20.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its open source lol. Why don't the tech billionaires innovate? Instead they just ban competitors

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

More protectionist bullshit that won't help anyone.

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[–] __init__@programming.dev 23 points 2 weeks ago

Your tax dollars at work!

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

The desperation... It reeks

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Well I guess that means its time to download it even though I don't know what I'll do with it.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago

Saw this coming as soon as Microsoft immediately wanted to investigate.

Deepseek is going to be a Chinese military complex on the books shortly.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

Lol rich coming from a class of people who can’t even open up a fucking pdf in their email

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