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If you were wondering what you would be doing when Hitler started building concentration camps and loading up the trains...you're doing it right now...
I don't think I'd be browsing social media in the 1930s.
Newspapers were effectively the lemmy of that time
They censored the papers. They can't censor the lemmy
Lemmy is like the few newspapers that fought till the very end. meanwhile the big social medias have all already fallen in line in advance
They've trained people so well that they won't even need to.
Technology has improved though, giving us the power to yell at people in the comfort of our homes when the news makes us mad.
Who else remembers past Presidents campaigning on closing Gitmo, then dropped the subject after getting elected?
Obama signed an executive order to close it, but Congress and the legal system slowed it down.
Where is congress and the legal system now?
Oh come on you know damn well where it's at.
in the shitter
"They go low, we go high"
Still there... proving, once again, that racism and the love of money is indeed embedded in America's everything
90 senators, including Bernie Sanders, rejected Obama's 2009 funding proposal that would've closed the camp. And with good reason. Obama's move would've simply moved the prison onshore while continuing the indefinite detention without trial, potentially legitimizing the practice further and providing a clearer legal precedent.
Yes, he technically tried to "close Guantanamo Bay" but in a way that wouldn't adress the actual reasons people want it closed.
“A number of important questions remain unanswered regarding the rather complicated issue of not just how you close down the facility, but what you do with the prisoners,” he said in part. “In order to answer these questions, President Obama has appointed a high-level committee of top administration officials who will be issuing a report in the coming months. I think that it is prudent to review that plan they develop before we spend $80 million in taxpayer money.”
Only took him 7ish years to get around to it though. Probably something to have done sooner?
And what would have happened if he did it sooner? They would have kept stalling out out? I believe no matter when he did it out would have needed approval
Then make them be the ones to block it from being shut down. Not try to do it right before leaving office.
And maybe not sign the bill to upgrade it...
https://www.courthousenews.com/obama-signs-bill-expanding-guantanamo/
Plus not like he even closed it with his closing EO
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/obama-gitmo-plan-reaction-219696
That first article quotes Obama trying to close it. From the sounds of it congress attached keeping the base open as a rider to another defense funding bill. That's a common tactic I think
He did start the process sooner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13492
This was issued in 2009. It's obstructed (by the same institutions not obstructing Trump right now), and Obama slowly releases inmates over the next couple of years. What you're linking to there is a "final" plan in 2016 to close it after the prison population of Gitmo had been reduced from 800 to 91.
A final plan that never happened because Trump took office.
So dems really haven't learned anything since 2008???
(from my other reply)
Then make them be the ones to block it from being shut down. Not try to do it right before leaving office.
And maybe not sign the bill to upgrade it...
https://www.courthousenews.com/obama-signs-bill-expanding-guantanamo/
Plus not like he even closed it with his closing EO
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/obama-gitmo-plan-reaction-219696
Because it's a very popular issue with the voting public but the voting public doesn't have any recourse if you renege on your campaign promises.
Luigi begs to differ
I appreciate the sentiment but Brian Thompson wasn't an elected official, let alone POTUS.
This was the plan.
I cant still understand how americans decided that putting up prisons and managing them should be privatised.
It began in the 1980s, when Republicans went full-throttle into privatization.
Really, it began it's current form when other slavery was outlawed, so states started capturing free slaves for "crimes" and leasing them out to their former owners. It's only a small evolution from there to today.
Slavery is independent of prison ownership. You’re referring to involuntary servitude versus the abolished chattel slavery. Privatization is an additional layer of systemic oppression.
Private prisons may or may not partake in indentured servitude. In addition to participating in the constitutionally protected slavery, they have far more systemic problems than public prisons. The goal is to spend as little as possible to meet minimum legal requirements in order to maximize profit (it’s a business, after all). Many of these for-profit prisons are infrequently or improperly evaluated, leading to far worse conditions than governmentally run prisons. There have also been countless cases of people being denied parole to maintain minimum headcount.
~~Modern private prisons first emerged in 1984 when the Corrections Corporation of America (CCA), now known as CoreCivic, was awarded a contract to take over operation of a jail in Hamilton County, Tennessee.~~ See comment below for link to the origins of private prisons.
This is factually incorrect.
https://time.com/5405158/the-true-history-of-americas-private-prison-industry/
Fascinating. They’re much older than that of the sources I’ve read. Thanks for the link!
My point about the difference between public vs private prisons being independent of prisons that participate in indentured servitude still stands. One does not imply the other.
Americans dont run the US. Plutocrats run the US.
Its obvious that for profit prisons are in their interest
Americans didn't. A few rich ghouls did.
Prison profiteering has been going on since at least when the civil war ended. It's a crucial foundation for the imperial "economy".
Damon T. Hininger still their CEO? Asking for a friend.
Send more blue shells 🥰
You don't need an offshore camp with nebulous legality for deporting immigrants. There's already somewhere to send them and you don't care if they go free. Pretty damn useful for domestic opponents though.
'He's ~~Building~~ Expanding a Concentration Camp'
He's building another* concentration camp
Belle of the ranch pointed out it costs more at gitmo because you have to ship everyone and everything there.