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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 197 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

To be clear, for anyone who might misinterpret this: Sam Nordquist is the name of the victim. Goodwin is one of the alleged torturers/murderers. Thanks @Gladaed@feddit.org for letting me know it wasn't so clear.

Goodwin was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2015 for 1st degree criminal sexual act and 1st degree sexual abuse, according to state prison records. He was released in 2023.

He went to prison for having sex with a 7-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl, according to the state sex offender’s registry.

It's always the ones you expect the most.

It is however, worth noting that three of these people appear to be cisgender women. I guess they're okay with a guy who rapes kids, but trans people living their own lives not bothering anyone is a bridge too far.

Who has bets on that these people think LGBTQ+ are the real child predators even though they are legitimate child predators themselves? It's always always always always projection.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why the fuck does this say "for having sex with" and not "raped"? Who the fuck wrote that? What the fuck?

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago

It's since been updated, although I'm not sure the changes are any better. More clinical, I guess.

Goodwin was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2015 for 1st degree criminal sexual act and 1st degree sexual abuse, according to state prison records. He was released in 2023.

The victims were a 7-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl, according to the state sex offender’s registry.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In absolutely no way defending these peices of shit... But news agencies can't just say "rapists" if they haven't been charged/convicted without risk of getting sued.

It's stupid, but it's, usually just them protecting themselves from legal action.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Did you read the article or even the quote? The sentence where it says that begins by saying that's the reason this fucking garbage went to prison.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It says he was convicted of sexual assault. Depending on the state’s laws, that could be different from rape. Even if we colloquially would call it rape, that may not be the legal definition. So any news reporters would potentially be opening themselves to libel lawsuits if they use the word “rape” instead of “sexual assault”. Because again, he wasn’t explicitly convicted of rape.

Hell, that’s what got Trump off of a rape charge, because the state he was sued in had a very narrow legal definition of the word “rape”. The definition required penis-in-vagina sex. He “only” (ugh) groped and fingered the victim, so the state’s narrow definition didn’t consider it to be rape. Even if we would colloquially call it rape, that’s not what the state’s legal system determined it to be.

In Trump’s case, the judge later had to clarify that using the word “rape” is socially acceptable for what he did, because it would be what most people would consider rape, even if it’s not what the state has on the books. But the judge only did that because Trump is a public figure who was threatening to sue any news orgs that called it rape. This random rapist wouldn’t get that same kind of clarification from a judge, because their story wouldn’t be likely to hit national news for weeks.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“He went to prison for sexually assaulting…”

It’s not hard.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Goodwin was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2015 for 1st degree criminal sexual act and 1st degree sexual abuse, according to state prison records… The victims were a 7-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl, according to the state sex offender’s registry.

I’d argue that the article went a step farther and listed the exact crimes he was found guilty of. Your version leaves some ambiguity in regards to the nature of the sexual assault, (first degree, second degree, aggravated or not, misdemeanor vs felony, etc) whereas “first degree sexual abuse” and “first degree criminal sexual act” are terms that anyone can google and find the legal definition for. The article was even more specific than your example, and yet you’re still complaining that they didn’t say he sexually assaulted someone?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I thought we were criticizing the first wording chosen by the journalist, not the corrected version.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes I did in fact, did you? Please explain where it says they were convicted of rape?

I'm not defending them. What they did was rape, but unless they're convicted, specifically of rape, you won't find articles saying that.

[–] Supervivens@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If someone… goes to prison for sex with someone underage… that is by definition… STATUTORY RAPE

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

I'm not defending them, but could you walk through your though process here?

Obviously /s ... what are these questions

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I see your point, not a big enough distinction for me but I know what you mean.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You rape two kids that age, and I'm ok with a firing squad immediately behind the courthouse. That would have probably saved this person's life. I think hard core child rapist who went to prison for 8 years was the major catalyst here.

Or a series of anvils dropped on your head Bugs Bunny style.

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[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Please add that Goodwin is one of the suspects and not the victim. Passerbys might misinterpret this.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Done, thanks for making clear to me that it wasn't clear that I was talking about the victim or the aggressor.

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[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Careful with Goodwin here. With a resume like that he's bound to be employed by Musk before summer solstice, better ease up!

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Not racist enough.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago
[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It’s always the ones you expect most.

People in countries with elected anti-trans governments.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hypocritical capitalist companies have in this very rare insurance, got you on that.

I had to search for that just remembered the image.

And the first search result was

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thankst! But the link you provided is for Amazon, a company I refuse to give money to (I'm also in Denmark), so I think I'll design it myself and have it printed on a t-shirt.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Yea that's why I screenshot it instead of linking.

Oh yeah some local print will be happy for the business.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Killers about to get a presidential pardon

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

State murder law applies, so it won't do the killers much good

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[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 week ago

Trans lives matter. F these heartless, and sadistic pieces of shit.

[–] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

... This is my hometown. I remember Sage and Goodwin. Monsters.

I'm ashamed.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Did they always look like criminals?

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I am over in Rochester, and I just cried. I used to live in Clifton Springs for a few months and it is terrifying how "red" it gets one or two towns over from the more blue.

[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'm in Erie county and it's super red once you get outside of Buffalo. I wouldn't be totally shocked if something like this happened here. The rhetoric used by the nazis in charge is hoping for this kind of violence.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Troopers made the arrests Thursday at Patty’s Lodge Motel in Canandaigua in Ontario County Thursday. [...] [The victim] was last known to be staying at the motel. [...] The five people moved the body from the motel to cover up the murder.

So, all five suspects were arrested at this motel, the victim was last known to be staying at the motel, and the murder apparently happened at the motel.

What were the motel staff doing during that month?!

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What were the motel staff doing during that month?!

Their jobs? You work at a motel you mind your own business

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No you do not fucking ignore someone being tortured to death. What the fuck.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

You're coming off like you know something?

Your next door neighbor could be torturing somebody right now.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I bet all five of the people charged are US citizens.

[–] honeybadger1417@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know, I've been assured by plenty of members of the government that's supposed to represent me that these sorts of dangerous people must be immigrants. Or drag queens. Or those evil, conniving socialists who want to take all our guns away and force our children to have sex changes or something. I'm not sure, it's hard to keep up to date with all the crazy bullshit.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Turns out the real dangerous, evil, conniving, child groomers were the Republicans we met along the way.

[–] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 10 points 1 week ago

Just by looki g at the pictures, they are so american their parents are very close related

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm sure JK Rowling and Riley Gaines will applaud the killers. This is the intention. This is what they want. I feel sick reading this article. "Trans people are so privileged in society, we need to protect everyone from them" meanwhile we suffer rape assault and murder rates far higher than for cisgender populations. The trans community lives with a constant fear of violence. This story isn't even unique. It is heartbreaking, sickening and tragic. But it's happened many times before.

Fuck every single person who spreads transphobia. Fuck every terf. This is the desired outcome they have. They know this is the case, they know that their actions will lead to trans death. They don't care.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

MFW I get arrested mid-way through applying my Dr. Zaius cosplay makeup...

[–] Arondeus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Lol, holy shit. On point!

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

this is absolutely horrifying

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Look at that collection of Monster Energy drinkers.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I cannot believe the second person is in their thirties with the way they look. And why were all these 30+yos involving a 19yo in this? Sounds like grooming to me

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Goodwin was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2015 for 1st degree criminal sexual act and 1st degree sexual abuse, according to state prison records. He was released in 2023.

The victims were a 7-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl, according to the state sex offender’s registry.

Sage was sentenced to two to four years in state prison in 2022 for 4th degree grand larceny and 1st degree dissemination of indecent material to a minor. He got out in 2024.

They're definitely people who would groom kids, but I assume they're definitely mentally... uh... delayed, due to probably lots of factors, the least of not which is the American prison system. But I'm definitely not excusing any of these horrid fucks, don't take that as the takeaway from my comment. My point is rather that the mishmash ages make sense because it's a group of people who never really grew up in any sense of the word, so your idea of a "normal" 30+ year old prolly doesn't apply here. And even if was like proper grooming for that 19-year old, it's one of their smaller crimes at that point, compared to the other horrid shit

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

Archived link in case anyone else is getting a pop up about an ad blocker: https://archive.is/ZuVwv

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In addition to catching a criminal did someone also get a reward for catching sasquatch?

Bunch of scumbags

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[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It's not just "subgroups", it's all groups.

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