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Reddit has a habit of promoting less than honest lefty rage bait. (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.world
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I’m not saying the GOP won’t do it but getting mad before anything happens will create a avenue of attack for the GOP or make you look dumb when it doesn’t happen.

If the left gets in the habit of calling foul before anything is done when the actual bad news hits it will be less impactful.

Normally I would say let it be but with how much the GOP depend on voters in their party that benefit from Medicaid they are actively trying to soften the blow for when they actually do it.

This issue is a powder keg and if we flinch before it goes off we put ourselves in the blast zone.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-does-republican-budget-cut-medicaid-880-billion-2030326

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[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bro wut. You gonna wait to do something until after the person with a gun to your face pulls the trigger?

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lol so the solution is to wait until it does happen to react or even speak on it?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The solution is not to promote disinfo rage bait. Like if you look today on the front page there is an actual article describing the situation in full.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Idk. I remain firmly convinced one of the better ways to enact change (secondary to voting my chosen candidates in) is to call my representatives and voice my opinion on upcoming legislation. If I wait until the bills are introduced to make my calls, there is no guarantee the contact is made by then. One quick example with easy dates is Obamacare: introduced to house Mar 17, 2010. Voted on in-house 3/21, voted on in Senate by 3/25. That is 6 business days to be introduced and pass both House and Senate. If I had objections, that leaves me little time to contact and do my little spiel and for staffers to "review" it as needed.

Make no mistake, I'm not naive to where messages go, as I'm not a lobbyist with a checkbook. But listening to someone on the internet telling me "don't worry about it yet, everything is fine" seems an awful lot like drumming up apathy. These Medicaid and Dept of Ed threats directly threaten my job and clients, so I will absolutely not be waiting until the 11th hour to voice an opinion.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My issue is messaging. You can check the link in the OP, the post in question was fact checked and debunked. It's not a good look. We do need to be vigilant but we can't spread disinfo. Yes there is reason to be concerned but it's not a slam dunk to say they are taking your Medicaid, yet. Yes, maybe it does happen and yes maybe it is likely but if we pre-empt the outrage with no receipts it makes it really hard to drum up outrage later when the right is actually on the back foot.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not going to wait; he's said he wants to end the Dept of Education for months now. He's the people's choice for "He does what he says" (despite all the contrary evidence). Why would I wait for him to find a gun and point it to move out of the way or defend myself?

I'm also not super worried about the details; Medicaid is on the chopping block. Are we worried if it's the left hand or the right hand getting cut? It's a program that will receive some massive cuts, without the necessary oversight afforded to Congress by the Constitution. I'm not worried about the amount or the people involved, I'm worried about the action and process. It's the same argument as "when they go low, we go high". We're working from an obsolete standard. It's reading from a "how to untie a knot" manual while being burned at the stake.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not telling you to wait. There are 1000 issue to act on, today. You just keep blowing past my one and only contention. It's not about going high or low. It's about not playing into the traps set by the GOP. There are larger strategies at play. There is no reason a left wing circle jerk like reddit needs to resort to disinformation. It doesn't help, and it actually hurt us.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How? It has literally not hurt the GOP even a little bit. If anything, it's strengthened the base. We aren't a different species, and the crowd dynamics at play are similar.

It seems pretty easy that this is some kind of psy op to spread apathy.

It's just that easy to spin things online. Let people do what they want to do, we aren't a monolith. We can all operate how we see fit.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you haven't noticed the GOP operate like a cult. If you want to do that, good luck cause I'm not going there. I do let people online do what they want. There is literally nothing I can do to stop it. I will speak against it, though.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but they are a cult in power. If I have to choose, I choose the cult I can identify with.

I just think it's dumb to turn your nose up at the message because part of it isn't true. Absolutely, dispel the untrue parts. We don't disagree there, but it's not all or nothing; true parts still exist within. Help give people the tools to see the error in part, not just blanket disavow.

In my opinion, that is. I'm not a political strategist, otherwise I'd be working with the devil on selling defective baby carriages in Africa. Or "Cyber trucks" as we call them here in the US.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's not a matter of whether the cult works or not. The left just simply can't transform into over night. We have to be what we are and transform into cult should be the last thing on our list of things to do.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I'm not going to die clinging to old ideals. I have friends, family, colleagues, and clients who will be negatively physically and mentally affected by changes proposed. When it comes down to it, I'm not going to care about accuracy of the message. They've shown no regard for rule of law, constitutionality, or empathy or concern for others. I get it, "don't become them", but I'm not going to let myself get hung up on those details anymore. It's a different game now.

[–] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do you ever just pause before in your life and go "shit, maybe I don't really know jack about this after all"

Now would be a great time to start.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

i have been calling out that some of these subreddits have been posting ragebait material, many of those sources are backed by RU too, cant people tell the difference? you can tell in a politcs sub/or adjacent, that the article people posting often have these kinds headlines "why isnt a dem doing this or that, or he or she is going to lose the election if they dont do this or that" these are one of the examples, furthermore alot of the mods are mostly right wing/powermods that own multiple subs too. theres almost mirror image between one of these subs and a conservative subs. and also banning is very nebelous in the subs too. they allow right wingers to astroturf the sub, only mildly banning some of them when they are called out, and the opposite almost gets an outright ban if you try to comment that is literally the same aggreement of the thread, or you are reporting one of the righties.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's a uphill battle. Reddit so desperately wants to flip red and they plan on doing it by creating so much lefty disinfo that they will be indisguishable from the red hats and conservatives will just start shouting everything down.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

all those trump gaffes that are on all the post, if X is so bad, why do they keep reposting OOp, knowing that the oop is a "resistance grifter".

facebooks/youtube already does this, youtube allows it in a form anti-woke, ant-trans shorts. and i dont bother logging in to google.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just Reddit?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago

Maybe if I make my tinfoil hat into a sailboat I'll go viral but I suspect lemmy is it's own disinfo campaign.