Just a reminder that 404 media is owned and run by its own journalists.
I'm tired of news that's been filtered through a billionaire's best interests.
this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2025
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Just a reminder, 404 Media is still operating for profit.
I’m fine with that if it’s collectively owned by the people who are doing the actual work.
I understand, but that does not change the fact that they will always be looking to maximize their profit.
To add some context, one nice thing about the independent model 404 Media has gone with is that they tell us exactly what their motivations are, in their own voices (it’s only four people). On their podcast they’ve been very open about what they want, and maximizing profit is not it. They’ve talked honestly about what it costs to operate, and they’ve said the infinite growth model is not what they want to emulate. They just want to keep doing good journalism, they are not in it to get rich. Since I believe and trust their journalism, I’ll choose to believe them on the business side too, and that’s up to everyone to decide.
I think they’re in touch with their readership enough to know that they’d lose a ton of subscribers if they sold out or started making terrible profit-driven decisions.
But who knows, I don’t know them personally so they could just be really really good liars.
They literally have ads and paywalls. Both.
You can check the website, but they even written a garbage article about how the internet had lewd thoughts about the female avatar of the christian church.
I don't know what they need to do more to show you that they are looking to maximize their profits.
People don't understand that better capitalism is still capitalism.
You have a very myopic view of how people make money
NYT and Washington post are just garbage now. It’s sad.
I’m pretty sure they always have been. IIRC you’ll find op-Ed’s praising Hitler and Germany leading up to WW2.
They also deliberately slandered the guy that broke the (CIA admitting cocaine from Nicaragua into the US to fund right wing militias) story that often gets told as “the CIA introduced crack into black communities”. They effectively discredited the story, which turned out to be true.
The Behind the Bastards episode on it is p good
Always has been
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Who remembers NYT sitting on the illegal NSA wiretapping story for the Bush admin for over a year?
It wasn't until more than a year later that the paper's executive editor, Bill Keller, rejecting a personal appeal and warning by President Bush, gave the story a green light. (Bush had warned "there'll be blood on your hands" if another attack were to occur.)
These stealth edits are unacceptable. They are tantamount to the NYTimes shouting about their cowardice from the rooftops. Do they really think people won’t notice? Clearly they underestimate how satisfying it is to catch them in a lie, which is ironic for a newspaper whose reputation has been bolstered by exposing (some) lies.
I thought correction notices were standard practice. It’s not like they can correct the hard copy, so fuck all their online readers I guess? Infuriating, but we shouldn’t expect anything better from them at this point in their downfall.
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