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How my Firefox became a LibreWolf

New blog-post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1065/how-my-firefox-became-a-librewolf

#firefox #librewolf #tos #webcomic

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[–] scaro@mamot.fr 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org je te suis et pas que pour la qualité de ton travail ! je vais l'installer de suite sur mon portable Frame.Work Fedora. Et pour ton mobile, tu as choisi quoi ?

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

@scaro@mamot.fr Merci. Sur mobile jusque là c'était Firefox sur un Android dégooglisé... enfin au mieu possible car c'est quasi impossible de faire un 100%.

Mais là je teste la semaine prochaine https://iode.tech/ , c'est du https://lineageos.org/ mélangé avec de la revente de matos reconditionné. Je donnerai des news sur le blog si ça fait bien le taf, surtout si au niveau photo/video ça arrive à suivre. ☺️

[–] scaro@mamot.fr 1 points 18 hours ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org alors je serai attentif à tes futures publications. Sur mon Fairphone avec Murena OS, je testerai le navigateur par défaut pour désinstaller dès que possible Firefox aussi. Iels verront vite la baisse de leur utilisation, sans doute lors des prochaines mises à jour...

[–] usul@piaille.fr 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org good luck getting sec patches in time

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Honestly. The biggest dilemma browsers seem to have isn't just funding but how to maintain they're absolutely massive code bases.

Either we really do a very large and robust org like the Linux kernel group, or we need to find a way to massive reduce the complexity of the browser.

Servo is exciting and ladybird too. Maybe their fresher starts can bring in the opportunity to do that.

[–] eugen@infosec.exchange 23 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For me, it is, honestly, sad. I've been using Firefox since... it was Firebird. Twenty+ years.

Great art, as always!

[–] mray@social.tchncs.de 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thank you! Putting the Firefox dilemma in pictures makes it less academic and more approachable issue. I hope many people realize how empowering it is to use free software that can be replaced easily.

It is not always so easy:

https://video.1146.nohost.me/w/ij3qHTrc55t9izuk6hP7HF

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 1 points 21 hours ago

@mray@social.tchncs.de Thanks! Oh yes it's not easy to find the time and do a change and walk the path of frustration of changing habit and studying settings.

Thanks for the video, I'm already subscribed to this animator artist, James Lee.

He recently announced moving to GNU/Linux. It's not the best period to do this for artists, with Wayland, all container war etc...I don't remember I saw an update of them about how they succeed to make it. Certainly hard time ^ ^ I hope he found my blog post about it.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy crap thank you for sharing that. Spectacular. Also, the last minute of that had the kind of inspirational vibes that I last got in the 90s reading things on cult of the dead cow.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

From the blog post...

You won't be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, you'll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that you're willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.

Yeah, ouch, thats not going to sell with the Plebs, and limit buy-in from them, and market share.

They really should try to fix that, and not just hand wave it away as a problem.

Market share is the lifeblood of the browser wars.

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[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world "[...] not going to sell with the Plebs"

😆 I don't think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs. As far as I know it's a community initiative, not a company. Yes, it require time to install and setup, and understand the implication of what security and privacy setting one decide to lower. But I'm happy I took this time, I feel I understand even more how the web of 2025 is broken and how web browser interacts with it to try to ease the experience.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

😆 I don’t think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs.

I've never met a software developer yet who wouldn't want their program to be popular and widely used.

Also, when it comes to browsers, the name of the game is to get support from the big websites, which is done by having major/popular usage of their browser.

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[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Everything is on by default. So is actually quite easy.

It's very nice because you don't really have to worry about which add-ons you need.

It's about the most simple browser I've ever used.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Pleb here

You are correct

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For android, there's also fennec on fdroid

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i have ironfox for android.

[–] Gonzalo@paquita.masto.host 3 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I switched to LibreWolf two month ago and it works nicely.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Gorgeous artwork friend!

[–] cyborgnekosica@socel.net 2 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org somehow, my #librewolf makes weird alignment in some sites... is there a way to make the text align left?
It's not a big deal but it can be annoying sometimes

[–] technikhil@toot.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For those coming here in search of Firefox alternatives, I just want to point out https://zen-browser.app/ that is also a fork of Firefox though perhaps a more customised fork... Check it out if you are in the mood for trying a different layout from the default Firefox experience...

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

i also have floorp./

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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org i deleted firefox litllery just today from my distro, and replaced it with librewolf
its working great!

[–] darkbeth@mastodon.coffee 9 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Excellent art, as always.

I switched this week too. It was very simple on Linux Mint, but I worry about the future of the Firefox code base.

[–] Domi@framapiaf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

@davidrevoy
Il y aussi floorp, un "fork" également du renard. Pas d'avis définitif (en phase test) mais je n'ai pas eu le besoin de me plonger dans la doc et de soulever le capot pour l'intant.
@Khrys

LibreWolf needs to adopt a Foxkeh like mascot since Mozilla refuses to do it even though it would make them so much bank and popularity. <3

[–] matera@mastodon.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
I'm hooked on the Wolf, been using it for over a year.

Once in a while I use furryfox for some fussy-ass site that I have to do one thing on once in a blueish moon.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

@matera@mastodon.sdf.org Haha, I typed in a search engine for "furryfox" before realizing it was your way of naming Firefox. 😆
Catchy name.
Yes, I'll keep my Firefox too in background. Right now mainly to compare when I have an issue with LibreWolf, and also to test my blog and peppercarrot website. 😉

[–] matera@mastodon.sdf.org 1 points 17 hours ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org LOL Yeah, I get too cute sometimes.

It's good to have a few different browsers for website testing. I have an assortment of different browser profiles too. I use dedicated profiles mostly to keep Gahoogle and Zuckland noses out of my business.

[–] kagan@wandering.shop 1 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org The artwork and the alt text describing it are both poignant and touching.

I'm about to migrate from Firefox (which I've been using since it was Netscape 3.04) to Librewolf as well. It's nice to feel welcomed.

[–] simonzerafa@infosec.exchange 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

@protonprivacy@mastodon.social also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.

Is @mozillaofficial@mastodon.social doing the same? 🫤🤷‍♂️

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 1 points 21 hours ago

@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange @protonprivacy@mastodon.social @mozillaofficial@mastodon.social I'm not sure how official the account you linked here is, the branding feels off and it's not really noted in the bio this is their official new account.

Before December, Mozilla had their instance, and decided to remove it ( src. https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/mozilla-exits-the-fediverse-and-will-shutter-its-mastodon-server-in-december/ )

Proton also really manage their PR like rotten potatoes imo ( https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/ )

... both company also abuse marketing bs wording and praise AI. Not surprising they are criticized here.

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