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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A former boss told a story once that was super relatable.

It was about change and how it's not always necessary.... He went on about how one business changed their payment policies so that everything was done by some kind of payment card, they wouldn't accept cash/cheque with their new system.

He was basically bitching about having to pay by card for something he usually pays for by cheque.

The super relatable service that "pulled this on him"? It was a dry dock for his boat.

Yep. Super relatable bossman. I can barely pay my bills on what I'm paid, and you're being super relatable talking about how you store your boat in the winter. πŸ–•

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 29 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Last year, my CEO said if we finish the project on time, he'll buy a new truck and bring it around the office for everyone to check it out.

This would be his 20th truck he bought.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Jesus, that is even worse than a "let them eat cake" moment. This would be like Marie Antoinette eating cake in front of the starving peasants and then saying "be grateful for the opportunity to watch me eat cake!"

What happened to us? When did our spirits become so broken that the rich figuratively spit in our face and we thank them for it?

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you want to check out a new truck that you don't own, just go to a dealership not looking like a bum and they might even let you drive it.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Don't even need to not look like a bum, I've gone on a few test drives looking like a bum.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I had a hobby in high school of test driving whatever sports cars they had at the various dealerships in town. I didn't look like a bum but I was obviously a teenager. Worst case was the Mazda dealership that told me to come back another day before I could test drive a miata.

Most of them just let my friend and I take it out on our own, though the most expensive ones I drove were the WRX and Maxima (and the sales guy joined for both of those).

Actually, the worst was the Toyota matrix, where they didn't let me drive it at all but ride while the sales guy was driving. But that was after they let us take a celica out, possibly even because of that car being used for joy riding, since I saw others taking it out, too.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Some people in charge of the world would fail the Sally-Anne test.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The elites don't want you to know this but the boats at the marina are free you can take them home I have 458 boats.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 48 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No one, take them, they're free.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Some people would be so relieved.

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[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

A city of 250,000 people could have 250 boats (that's enough for a marina or two) and it would be 0.01% of the population (the one percent of the one percent). That seems to not really be that crazy.

And if you consider that a small percentage of the boat population may have 2 or even 3 boats, than it gets even less weird.

I also think that if you live near water, people are generally at least a little more likely to get a boat instead of a nice car or bigger house or other luxury item.

Edit: I was off by an order of magnitude so it would be 0.1% not 0.01, however, I think the broader point is still valid.

[–] Cliff@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

But 0.01% of 250,000 is 25.

(Sorry πŸ™)

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[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You're also forgetting all the people who live on a boat instead of buying or renting property. I live in a coastal state, and some marinas work like trailer parks, where you pay the moorage fee and they supply water/sewer/electric to your boat.

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Just had a look at used sailing boats in Norway and there are a fair number for under $10 000. Basically cheaper than a used car or camper. I'd have one if I had somewhere to keep it.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago

That's the real kicker. a place to moor your boat is often more expensive and even then maintenance costs will be a lot.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Cheap to buy maybe, but expensive to moor and maintain. A friend who bought a small second-hand yacht said his new hobby was tearing up Β£20 notes in a cold shower.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

They say the two happiest days in a boat owners life are the day they buy their boat and the day they sell their boat.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

IIRC the rule of thumb for boat costs, is that annual upkeep costs for a boat are roughly the purchase price of the boat.

[–] Demonmariner@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's wildly inaccurate, even as a rule of thumb. Upkeep (excluding storage, which varies widely by location) shouldn't be over 10% of the purchase price, unless the boat was really cheap or the boatyard doing the maintenance is crooked.

Talking US rates here, I have no experience overseas.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 days ago

Fair I have zero experience owning a boat. However, if I bought a boat for $10K and my annual upkeep was only $1K I'd certainly be thrilled.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Some people don't even really sail them but live in them.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Boats aren't even that expensive everywhere. In America they're priced as luxury objects for the richest of the rich from what I've heard. Sailing as a way of traveling is actually a kinda cheap and rough activity, like camper vans. Not very "rich" stuff at all. My grandparents had a 30 footer and it wasn't exactly luxurious, definitely camper van vibes. They'd sailed it all over around Europe though.

[–] edg@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (7 children)

A new camper van in the US can easily cost 6 figures.

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[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, everyone's got a camper van everywhere because of how cheap they are

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago (4 children)

They're not that expensive, at least not up-front. A guy I know bought a sailboat for a few thousand dollars, but the catch was that it was almost 50 years old and needed a lot of repairs. He saved money by doing the repairs himself, but the $400 per month slip fee was still too much for him eventually and he sold the boat.

[–] hapablap@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 6 days ago (5 children)

You got the right idea I think. The boats are all smooshed together in a Marina so it's natural for people to overestimate the number of boats relative to the number of people. There are way way way more people then there are boats. Honestly that's the appeal of boats, the ability to go somewhere there aren't a lot of people because most people don't own boats.

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[–] theluckyone@discuss.online 10 points 6 days ago

I picked up a fifty year old English built sailboat (Westerly Centaur) for all of $500. My local yacht club (more a working man's boat club than the posh social group that the name suggests). Prior owner fell up on hard times in the middle of a refit and stopped paying storage fees. I picked her up from the club after they placed a lien on it. Since the club is full of powerboat owners, none of them were interested in buying a sailboat.

I'm working to finish the refit, doing the majority of the work myself. Helps that the club fees about to about $1100 a year. $400 a month would be excessive if I weren't living on the boat full time... And refitting a boat while living on her sounds like a miserable experience.

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[–] metaldwarf@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm kinda one of them. Well my dad is. He's typical of the boat owners I've met over the years. Boomer, business owner, white. He bought the first boat with a buddy in their late 20s, cuz that's when he had enough disposable income after they could afford a house, a rental property, two kids, two cars, a dog and a golf course membership. They had a falling out and my dad bought out his buddy. Three or four boats later I look after the boat, and do all the maintenance. My dad's in his 70s, he can't take the boat out on his own anymore. We go fishing 5 or 6 times a year. Moorage is $6000 a year, fuel is $2000, insurance $3000, maintenance at least $2000. Maintenance would be 10x that if I didn't do most of the work myself.

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[–] tyler@programming.dev 26 points 6 days ago (7 children)

boats aren't expensive, especially the older they are. fixing boats properly is expensive, but you also don't really need to do that. My dad had a racing boat when I was a kid, it cost him $400.. I bought a dinghy last year for $200. That's less than the cost of a game console. And it costs literally nothing to go take it out on the water.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My mom grew up in the '40s and '50s and she told me many times about the surplus PT boat her dad had bought at the end of WWII which the family would take out for boating trips. I was like holy shit a PT (Patrol Torpedo) boat! These things had three Packard engines and could make 45 knots. Later on as an adult I discovered that it was actually just a pontoon boat, one of the things the army would use to make temporary bridges over rivers and that could only go about 3 mph. My mom had just thought "PT" stood for "Pon Toon" so that's what she called it. It turns out she had always wondered what the hell John F. Kennedy had been doing in the Pacific fighting the Japanese in a pontoon boat.

Later on, I then learned that my mom's uncle had actually bought a surplus Air/Sea Rescue boat after the war. This boat was basically a PT boat, just with two of the Packard engines instead of three; since it was 15 feet longer than a PT boat it could also do 45 knots. So it turns out my mom did have this childhood experience of rocketing around the ocean at unbelievable speeds. Her uncle ended up selling the boat after the engine room caught fire for the third time (something these engines were notorious for) and we have no idea what happened to it after that. These boats cost about $190K new and he had somehow acquired it for $10K - I expect there was some shady dealing going on there.

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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Same people who own all the empty properties, residential and commercial; Fucking leaches, that's who.

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[–] based_raven@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My family had a boat quite a few years back. Not a massive one, probably cost ten grand or something. People don't need to be absolutely loaded to own a boat.

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)
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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

When I was a kid, my aunt owned a small one. She’d bring it to my house where my dad and my uncle did repairs.

We were by no means a rich family. It was a two bedroom house with my parents and 3 kids.

I imagine the most expensive part of these are probably dock fees?

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Floating homes for alcoholics? Pretty much anyone who can sign a down payment contract.

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[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you really think about it, no human was ever meant to go on a boat for they are not designed around humans. I think they're for the illuminati lizards.

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[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Believe it or not. There's as many reasons to own a boat as there are to own a house. And many more uses for a boat.

Weird thing. A boat is much more affordable than a house nowadays. Hell I'd live on a boat. That shit would be awesome.

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Owning a boat

Pros:

  • You'll be able to survive the rising sea levels caused by global warming.

Cons:

  • You won't survive the super hurricanes caused by global warming.
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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It’s like when you drive through an area that’s all McMansions you’re like β€œhow they hell are there this many people with enough money and poor enough taste to own all these McMansions”? I guess the thing is that money people property sprawls out, whereas most of us live in a container city down a hole clustered around a sewer outlet so thousands don’t take up that much space.

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