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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)

An important thing you all need to understand about the Filibuster: it's not the final vote. It's basically a vote to stop talking and hold a vote. So all the Democrats can do with a Filibuster is delay (perhaps indefinitely).

But as a wise Canadian philosopher once noted: "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". What to Democrats gain by delaying this indefinitely? Without some action, the government gets shut down. All they gain is a closed government and a bunch of fingers pointed at them. Republicans know this, and will not give any concessions for Democratic votes.

The best move is to allow the vote, and then vote against the actual bill. They make their objection known, but still allow the government to stay open.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

But as a wise Canadian philosopher once noted: “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”.

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Now it's stuck in my head.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Spineless fucks. Predictable, unfortunately.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Shutdowns really suck if you're employed by the federal government. Nothing makes you feel more powerless than either being told you're not allowed to do your job because your employer can't figure out its shit or you're told you have to work, but you aren't guaranteed your next scheduled paycheck until the shutdown ends, and in 2018-19, it was really unclear when it would end. And if you're furloughed and get back-pay for not working, you're viewed poorly by the public for getting paid not to work, even though it wasn't your fault. I could definitely see Democrats being blamed for all the bad things resulting from a shutdown, even though it's provisions in the GOP bill that are ultimately causing it to happen. Holding federal employees' paychecks and government services to the public hostage is absolutely the shittiest way to conduct political business.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Also I read that being out of work for more than 30 days makes it easier to lay off federal workers.

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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm shocked, shocked!

Well, not that shocked...

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are very few actual Democrats. The Republicans became Fascists and most Democrats became corporate sellout Neo-Republicans.

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