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This post is a reminder that Visa and Mastercard are two american companies and that every time you pay for something with your credit card you are most likely paying taxes to trump and his goons.

This post is also intended to be a provocation to all the crypto haters and the cashless payment fanatics.

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[–] lennee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Girokarte regelt

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 9 points 8 hours ago

So is cash the only non-US option? Even my current account uses visa debit.

[–] RambaZamba@feddit.org 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

There is already a solution inside the EU, the shops just have to support it now. "Over the course of 2025, banks will no longer be allowed to charge additional fees for instant transfers in euros. Banks in all 20 euro countries must also offer the real-time service as standard."

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They're not the only options!

There's also..... American Express

How do we not have an international European card processor?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Because usa government and companies bought the current politicians

[–] dynamoMaus@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago

While it is partly true - look at how big lobbyorganisations of said companies are in Strasburg - I do not like how General this is. "All politicians are bought" is just straight up wrong.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 17 points 11 hours ago

Corporations in America don't pay taxes. They kill us slowly and erode our democracy and sponsor facism but they don't pay taxes.

[–] gon@lemm.ee 33 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah! It's best to use the national network, if it exists in your country. Also, daily reminder that the EU is working towards the digital Euro.

This post is also intended to be a provocation to all the crypto haters and the cashless payment fanatics.

I don't really get this tbh...

[–] Alxe@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

The digital euro looks so promising, even if it's a small thing. Ditching Visa and Mastercard would help reduce intermediates in the payment chain, even if the replacement is the bank itself.

[–] astigma@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This post is also intended to be a provocation to all the crypto haters

When crypto is backed by a regulatory body and isn't just speculative gambling, I might take it more seriously.

[–] lazycog@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago

Reminder: Arguing and discussion is okay, but keep it civil and do not attack the person you are arguing with.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Same with American Express and Discover.

The alternatives I know of are JCB, UnionPay, Interac and RuPay

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago

Any time you use a card at a PoS terminal in the US, one of those two are likely the payment processor as well.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 2 points 11 hours ago

In (only) Italy you can use Bancomat

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I think that's one of the part where there is no credible alternative, most of your credit/debit card will be either Visa or Mastercard, they're monoliths

every time you pay for something with your credit card you are most likely paying taxes to trump and his goons

Genuine question, how so?

to trump and his goons