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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27192542

By Syma Mohammed Published date: 14 March 2025 19:58 GMT

"Columbia University leadership made a series of concessions to the Trump administration on Thursday following an extraordinary letter that listed nine demands it expected the university to make if it did not want its federal funding to be pulled.

On Thursday, the university announced it was expelling, suspending and revoking the degrees of 22 students following last year’s Hamilton Hall protest, fulfilling one of the nine demands issued in a letter from the Trump administration to Columbia."

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Imagine paying out the bum, bury yourself in student loans to get a degree, and the uni just revokes it retroactively.

Absolute insanity. Do the students get a full refund on their education?

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

This is a great way to create people who have nothing to lose. Bonus, these were already people who were activists and doing something. Kicking the hornets nest might be an apt comparison.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 33 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I want to know how a university can just revoke a degree after the fact. Unfortunately the article didn't say a damn thing about it, not even how many they actually revoked.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 hours ago

Just keep using the degree. Odds are they don’t actually check unless it’s a background check sort of job.

[–] barooboodoo@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

temporary degree revocations

What in the everliving fuck does this even mean!?

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It means that you are temporarily hireable until the degree is reinstated.

[–] barooboodoo@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm assuming you meant unhireable right? Just such a weird ass punishment, like basically an adult timeout?

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I have had multiple employers tell me that my degrees make me overqualified, so idk, apparently having a degree hurts as much as it helps these days

[–] barooboodoo@lemm.ee 1 points 21 minutes ago

That is kind of a hilarious way to look at this, Columbia is actually trying to help these students find jobs!

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you can’t see that this is the end of the First Amendment you need a cane and dog.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the dog is for biting them in the junk, and the cane is for beating the everloving shit out of them.

because they are willful blind, collaborative pieces of shit.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Wait....what if I can see it as the end? Do I get to ditch my cane? Or do I need to get a dog to go with the cane now?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Immediately dropped to their knees!

I'm just going to say I hope for things and leave it at that.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 7 points 19 hours ago

I too have great hopes.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 98 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All 22 of these students should receive honorary degrees from universities abroad and from every US university that isn't full of cowards.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All 22 of these students should get their money back

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

More like a multi-million dollar level compensation for each for loss of fees, their time wasted (at university and which they can never get back), the opportunities they lost (if they were studying they weren't pursuing other opportunities) and any and all emotional damage from the ordeal.

(And I wouldn't at all be surprised if a good lawyer gets them exactly that)

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I were a Columbia student right now I'd be leaving next semester and seeing I could get refunds for this semester.

Your prestige means nothing.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I hope there are enough students who are willing to take such a bold step together to make their point.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)

These dumbasses really think capitulation will make the fascists go away? That's never how it works. Now you've emboldened them to go further, you utter idiots.

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 10 points 22 hours ago

I mean it's Columbia. They have a history of this. They aren't capitulating they are using an excuse to do what they wanted to anyways.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

This is being driven by the board, not the faculty. The board supports the fascism.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These demands are wild.

This included placing the distinguished Middle East, South Asian, and African Studies department under an “academic receivership” for a minimum of five years and installing a new department chair. This would involve the university ceding control of the department and an outsider chair that could be appointed by the government to run it, potentially overseeing everything from curriculum design to the hiring and firing of faculty.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 day ago

Freest country on earth, with government mandated positions in academia.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Very sad to see this for the students.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago
[–] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Are all the students empoc