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I get the boycotts for Target, Walmart, and Amazon for rolling back their DEI programs and bowing to Trump. What companies are treating employees fair or standing up for human decency? Seems like Costco gets brought up?

Most things I need I can get from my local grocery store which seems pretty non evil but where do you go if you need like a new keyboard?

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[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 days ago
[–] zenforyen@feddit.org 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bandcamp, because it is the best place for independent music and there is nothing close to it.

Steam, because they started with non-horrible DRM (compared to other options) and now they are one of the companies that help Linux succeed for gaming (Steam Deck is just a Linux computer with controllers attached, and Proton is awesome for running Windows games on Linux).

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Bandcamp: Semi. Because it was owned by Epic.
Dunno how bad it's with Songtradr.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Steam, because they started with non-horrible DRM (compared to other options)

Au contraire, Steam was LOATHED back in the day, they were the first to force you to install a store just to play a single game.

For other games, you needed to enter a CD key on install (which keygens helped with) and then you needed the CD itself in the drive (which cracks helped with). Steam started the trend of online DRM in games, which was then adopted by others who made even more draconian offerings (I think for Spore you could only get 3 hardware IDs registered?)

[–] zenforyen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ah good point, totally forgot the early times, I was too young back then I guess. Okay then the impact of Steam is kind of mixed then. From practical experience it is more up to the game developers to enforce or not enforce it and often in practice especially indie games are DRM free or it is easy to circumvent. Steam at least does not install some surveillance rootkit on your system. And I'd claim that it plays about the same role in the indie game ecosystem as Bandcamp plays for music and GitHub plays for open source software, at least that is my impression.

And contra Bandcamp is of course, they recently sold out i.e. got bought by some larger fish with totally different but music legal stuff related business and Bandcamp lost a lot of employees. But at least for now I don't see drastic enshittification ot Bandcamp yet.

I guess ultimately there is no perfect saint company, they are entities that must generate profit, and only sometimes it really means making customers happy, but more often than not it doesn't - that's just capitalism, how it works everywhere.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago
[–] vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dr Bronners soap has specifically reaffirmed their DEI policies since Trump's reelection, and they have a 5-to-1 cap on the top-level exec's salaries compared to their lowest paid retirement-vested employees. They seem to walk the walk from what I've seen and read.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Holy shit. Imagine if more companies did the 5 to 1 cap thing.

Even at 20 to one it would drastically change some company payscales.

Needs to apply to "bonuses" so there's no loopholes though.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

If there's a place that you just can't stomach to shop because of how they treat their employees then I highly recommend you do not shop there. I was avoiding Walmart before avoiding Walmart was cool.

However...

Boycotts only really work when organized, towards an end goal. What was Walmart doing before, what is it doing now, what do we want it to do, and who's coordinating? That's how you change corporate policy through boycott.

If certain DEI policies are important enough to you to boycott when a company removes them then that's fine. I guess it's also worth asking what it is about any given program that makes it good enough for not, which companies should or shouldn't have it, why, and all that.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[–] piranhaphish@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm not sure if it's still true, but I seem to recall SC Johnson having profits as the lowest of their corporate objectives with higher ones being things like improving people's lives and bringing value to the world.

Granted, it's all just text, and times change, but I'd be curious to know if there's any truth to it, especially today.

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[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Only as long as Gabe Newell runs it. After that it will enshittify like any other company that needs to make profits.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Private equity is salivating over the idea of ~~running his carefully built brand into the ground~~maximizing value extraction from steam.

The current meta here is that things like brand loyalty and reputation are not really worth preserving, and are only as good as whatever short-term gains you can squeeze out of them.

Supposedly gaben has threatened to release code in a death switch that would make every steam user able to play their games without phoning home.

I know that I would never buy another game if steam went down the toilet. Piracy was fun when I was a kid, and I bet it could be fun again.

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Let's hope musket doesn't buy it.

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King Arthur Flour!

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

I don't really believe in ethical consumption, but Penzys spices are awesome! They're such troll too, I love it!

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 100 points 3 days ago (9 children)

ACAB: All Corporations Are Bastards. Corporations are not your friends. Brands aren’t your friends.

[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

Yup. Everyone has to buy something. The point is to direct people to do that at places that are LES evil rather than giving in and saying "nothing matters I guess I'll just do whatever." Defeatism is collaboration.

[–] Lumberjacked@lemm.ee 58 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I used to not vote because all politicians are evil. Someone pointed out that if everyone picks the lesser of two evils then things are going to get less evil. I’ve voted every opportunity since.

Corporations are just legal structure organizing people together to do something. The soup kitchen, local artisan, person cutting hair out of their house, they all set up an LLC to operate under. They didn’t instantly become evil.

But if I need to buy a blender, plywood, or underwear (my shopping list this weekend), I’m going to have to buy it from a corporation. If I could buy it from a less evil corp then hopefully I make things less evil.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One way to fight the corporations is to stop worshipping at the altar of blind consumerism, and embrace the concept of "Reuse, Repair, Recycle."

Stop buying stuff you dont need. Keep using what you have, sell/buy used items, repair things, and if it cant be fixed or repurposed, then recycle it.

Repairing things is a big one. Often repairs are remarkably easy. My wife has been ready to replace numerous appliances over the years, and I figured it was worth taking a shot at fixing it, if I can save a few hundred bucks, and successfully extended the life by years.

Very satisfying, and it forces your wife to rethink her conclusion that you are an incompetent dolt.

[–] Lumberjacked@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sorry. My underwear is beyond repair

I hear some people enjoy that particular fashion statement.

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

lol. Intimates are poorly constructed, but we also ask a lot of them. In all seriousness though, I have repaired undies and bras and gotten another 6 months to a year out of them.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Voting for lesser evil just slows down the evil, it doesn't reverse it. It's still going in the wrong direction.

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

It should be noted that they are actively trying to bust their workers union so maybe boycott them when your local asks you to.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

The only one that comes directly to mind is Valve.

Besides that I'm not going to follow this narrative too much of finding "the good ones".

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago

NetBSD, Signal Foundation, other FOSS orgs

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Open source orgs

[–] EwonRael@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 days ago (15 children)

i use the nothanks app on my phone to scan the bar codes and it tells me if it's okay to buy or if i should boycott, along w why

Goods Unite Us is another similar app, showing which companies donate to political parties. It does have some paywall issues but it's better that nothing.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodsuniteus.goods

[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 59 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I found the thing you mentioned a good idea so I googled the app to find out how they decided who should or should not be boycotted. I landed their homepage and it said they offered digital marketing solutions.

I'd love to use something like that if community driven but sounds like an important conflict of interest.

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[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Patagonia is a good outdoors brand from the US

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You can always go for smaller/niche companies. System76 and Wooting come to mind for keyboards.

You have to do research and pay a premium. But you're way more likely supporting a business that cares about its employees.

In general consume less. And when you do need to make bigger purchases, do your research.

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