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I agree, but there's definitely some more integration that can be done. An initially opt-in military organisation would be great because it doesn't really make sense for individual EU countries to do military alone. We should never fight with other countries in the block (and a military organisation would make that impossible), and it doesn't make sense that the EU wouldn't protect other member states.

I guess we might get that for free when we inherit NATO...

I'm European and happy to be but I also look at European history and don't want us to go too hard.

Don’t take it for granted. Im British, I did. Many others did probably too.

Yes but what use is a flabby confederation that can't manage to speak with a united voice and does little more than distribute cash to the farmers of its increasingly autocratic members?

I'm caricaturing the situation but it's not that far off.

No. Let's get the EU to slowly move into a true federal model, improving on the good parts that already exist and creating new schemes of mutual approach as we advance. We do not need to become the USE.

Germany is a federation as well as Switzerland and Canada, the US and India.

How centralised and integrated a federation is will always be an ongoing discussion, but one could argue that the EU is a federal state in all but name.

California can do that?

Edit from le chat mistral:

So he doesn't give them anything, he's just asking to keep trading with them

"Yes, that's correct. Governor Newsom's strategy primarily involves advocating for California's economic interests and encouraging international trading partners to maintain or even expand their trade relationships with California, despite the federal tariffs. He is essentially asking these partners to consider exempting California-made products from retaliatory tariffs, emphasizing the state's economic stability and reliability as a trading partner. This approach does not involve offering specific concessions or incentives but rather leverages California's significant market power and economic influence to negotiate more favorable trade conditions."

California isn't doing anything, just asking politely to be exempt from our tariffs on USA.

That's a move to force the judiciary to say tariffs are solely their perview outside of declared conventional war.

I know, it was kinda rhetorical, it's just funny to me that someone was like " yup, you look great boss" and then sent him out.

Unhealthy blood flow too