He will shoot next time. Like a not so smart missile they just aimed him at decent human beings.
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Self-defense requires there to be an ongoing threat to your or someone else's immediate safety. If he was able to leave the altercation, head to his truck to retrieve his rifle, and then return to the situation that's not self-defense, its premeditation.
It's self defense, because the cops are on the same side as the guy...
Same reason you never see Miley Cyrus and Hanna Montana in the same room at the same time.
He’s probably white and identifies as CIS male. In today’s reality, that qualifies as self-defense to police.
always has
I bet if someone drew a concealed pistol on him after he pulled out his rifle the cops would NOT consider it self defense.
ACAB.
Protestors should bear arms. Soon enough, the Rittenhouses of the right will need to be put down when they behave like rabid DOGEs.
Conservatives escalate, and must be met in kind when they do so.
Protestors should bear arms.
I do. Concealed, for the moment, because my liberal NYS made it illegal to keep and bear arms while exercising your first amendment right.
And, I'm of the wrong political persuasion to test that law.
hey, new guy. Searg said you bring him donuts ASAP. also while you go there stop by the other department and tell the guys there that boss wants to entrap even more mentally ill muslims into trying to join ISIS this month.
I mean lots of people open carry. Hopefully we don’t get to this point, but if someone threatens someone else with firearm, lots of localities justify lethal force at that point (one must always assume a firearm is loaded)
Mr. Mangione was defending himself. Case Dismissed.
No, he didn't. We were having breakfast that morning, when it's alleged he killed a mass murderer.
He was defending the entire country
He wasn't. Because he didn't kill that CEO. My man's innocent.
Whoever did happen to off that CEO certainly did everyone a favor tho
as far as i am concerned Thompson's body just did that weird bullet thing 3 times in a row. Seems to be a latent condition in most billionaires.
Pre-existing condition, I'm thinking.
The body has a way of shutting down illegitimate bullets.
Tonight at 11: Is being rich bad for your health? 99% of the population seem to think so, and it's not why you think!
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Meal team six
Inserts himself into a situation he wasn’t invited to, or welcome at, instigates people for the purpose of “justified” retaliation- whips out his loaded lib-killer , and is summarily released by law enforcement.
I’d say those folks dun’ got Rittenhoused!
I agree with you. That's not how "self-defense works". If the snowflake geot hit, walks away from the situation, gets armed, and returns to attack the person that attacked such a fragile sheep, this is not self-defense, it's retaliation.
The sheep crybaby and whoever proclaimed this as self-defense are just a bunch of puppets.
That’s most likely why the police changed the order of events around:
"During the event, an adult male driver attempted to make a lawful turn at the intersection of Third Street andColumbia Street when his path was obstructed by protesters standing in the roadway. A verbal altercationensued between the driver and protesters," the release said. "The situation escalated when the driver exited his vehicle and was subsequently pushed and battered by individuals in the crowd. The driver then retrieved a firearm from his vehicle in what he described as an act of self-defense.
"He did not discharge the weapon and promptly returned it to his truck. Shortly after, a male protester approachedthe driver and head-butted him, causing injury," police said.
Even though multiple protesters described it otherwise. ACAB.
Edit: punctuationification
It's not a lawful turn if there is a pedestrian in the path of the vehicle.
There was an altercation and then he retreated and came back with a firearm. That's not self defense, that's brandishing.
I can understand the police not making that determination at the time, their goal should be to de-escalate and separate the conflicting parties, but they should send someone round to pick this guy up and book him for the felony he committed afterwards.
There's also video of the events that clearly shows the police statement is fucked.
We know what side the cops are on.
If someone had done that to protesters at a Drag Queen Story Hour or something, the cops would have slaughtered them.
If you can leave the situation safely - like being able to go back to your truck - it’s not self defense.
yup. as soon as he grabbed the gun and went back to threaten people with it.. he committed the felony.
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Self-defense isn't going back to your vehicle to get a weapon to come back and terrorize people. That's assault.
If he had returned with his weapon, and someone killed him, THAT would be self-defense.
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Self defense would be a headbutt back or fists, not the AmRepublican-14.
there's video, no one was doing anything to him. he got out of his SUV, started yelling at people, returned to the vehicle, got back out with the weapon at his side. self defense would have been (a) for literally anyone to have threatened him and (b) for him to simply leave the scene.
It is Indiana. Basically wild west style gun laws. You buy the gun, its yours ... done. No permit, no concealed carry, nothing. You bought the gun, take it where you want. Pretty much anywhere. If people are yelling at you on the street then Indiana's stand your ground style law basically kicks in. The state is very much "fuck around and find out".
Since you didn't link the video, here it is on reddit.
I can see the headbutt, it's at second 12.
Still an insane overreaction of course, but the truth is important.
oh geez, thanks for the correction there
Can someone share a mirror?
Found it on Twitter.... but I guess that doesn't help.
Maybe it's easier to download, but I haven't tried from either site before. I'll drop the link in case anybody wants to try.
at least I can watch twitter without an account, so it does help, thanks.
This is what we're up against.
I'll be damned if I let these people continue to run our country
ACAB.
How does going back to your vehicle and retrieving a n assault rifle count as self defense? That's premeditated at that point if he were to use it.
The difference between this, and any other mass shooting is just whether this guy decided to pull the trigger, which he obviously wanted too.
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