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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 111 points 1 week ago (2 children)

10 years ago I wrote a report on scope creep and used Star Citizen as the subject. I'm glad I never gave this project even a penny.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's amazing that 10 years ago it was obvious... and here we are...

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Amazing things happen when you get 100x more funding than expected

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Yeah, he realized that the hook was worth more than the actual game. Why finish a game that could tank, when you could promote hopes and dreams forever?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Why finish a game that could tank, when you could promote hopes and dreams forever?

Sounds a lot like organized ~~crime~~ religion.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Humanity will have warp-capable spacecraft before Star Citizen gets a release candidate.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still may be released before gta6

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hmm, but I think Half-life 3 may come out first.

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[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This has to be some psychology loophole they stumbled upon. It's like religion or something.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's like religion or something.

Well yeah, people putting money to buy several ships (instead of only 45$ for the basic game package) are buying into a dream. The dream of the perfect space sim, a sim where you can be anything you want. That dream has been growing since Elite in 84 and the X-wing games in the 90. So yeah, kinda religion for the space sim nerds.

Im certain they will deliver, no idea when, but they will achieve it so that’s cool for future gamers. If earth still exists that will be awesome as I will probably be near retirement and will have a shit ton of time to play.

PS: I only own a medium ship that I bought from the kickstarter funding back in 2010-ish ? I wanted it to be my flying space home.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago

It's coming soon! You'll see! It will come riding on the clouds with fire. And the backers will meet it in the air, and it will take them to be with it in the stars forever.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's often middle aged men with lots of money planning to run fleets of tens or hundreds of future players that will never arrive in the number they plan for. The few who do drop by won't accept their terms, so the middle aged man with lots of money will have to either play alone or play nice to get enough people to fully crew his second most expensive capital ship. He won't be able to crew his most expensive one because he can't convince the crew to fill the roles of 3 necessary "engineers" who run around the ship during combat staying on top of changing blown fuses and maybe a shield generator if it blows.

Sometimes it's not middle aged men, sometimes they don't have lots of money, there are definitely a lot of backers who are financially exploited and respond to a lot of the bullshit SC's marketing regularly does.

I've played SC a lot. It's got some cool shit but it's absolutely unstable and fundamentally broken in a hundred ways, and the design is kinda stupid and incredibly naive in terms of attracting and retaining players.

I liked piracy and PvP dogfighting. I also liked having a medium large gunship with a little Fury in it. (TIE fighter) I used to stuff the gunship full of drugs (cargorunning but supposedly cool) and jump in the Fury I'd hidden (powered off) if a ship arrived, and chase them off or kill them. I got really used to that little shit, it was incredibly satisfying to barely keep my shields up while G forces were almost blacking my guy out, and whittling down larger ships. I fucking miss that patch. 3.21 was kinda sweet, despite it's Star Citizen-ness. Tbh in some circumstances it plays a bit like an even slower Tarkov.

Don't play Star Citizen, unless some time down the line there's a Free Fly where you see reports of good stability. I think that's very unlikely, but I'd like to see it.

I'm personally $90 in. For a long time I stuck to the $45 starter. You shouldn't buy either of them.

Maybe wait and see if the single player spinoff "Squadron 42" comes out and is well reviewed.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (10 children)

All that being said, it's a pretty fun game, kinda cool that it's always evolving, and I'm not upset that I paid $45 to enjoy the gameplay I've had. The people who regularly play it seem a little skeezy, though, so that part kinda sucks...

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Box missions still bugged? Flying out the aircraft? Not completing? Dying while running?

I played a few years ago and refunded because even basic gameplay loops were bugged to non functional. It didn't feel pretty fun. Ended up playing No Man's Sky which was functional and fun.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In the limited time I've played, I noticed no bugs. I'm the kind of "player" who tries to break the game or at least the experience. The last time I hopped on was about a year ago, I played for about 2 hours, and everything was flawless.

What I didn't love is how. much. fucking. time. is. wasted. sitting. on. a. ship. Soooooooooo sloooooooooowwwwwwwww.

If more of the ship mechanics they've proposed (sabotage, engineering, repairs) make it into the game, I'll likely sing a different tune.

For the most part, the game feels like a very very interactive waiting room before the actual gameplay loads.

Personal note: I'm annoyed to no end that you can drink soda cans, crush them, and throw them, but no one ever reacts when you hit them with one and no one trips on them. My priorities are peculiar but consistent.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Release date pushed back another 6 months to add can-tripping mechanics

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They should just call it live service instead of early access.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago

The problem is that a live service game has to be a "complete" game, even at launch; ie. playing any one "season" on its own should be a satisfactory experience for a player. Star Citizen is nowhere near being a completed product.

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[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 11 points 1 week ago

That's my takeaway of the game. I kickstarted like 80 dollars almost a decade ago, still to this day the only thing ever. I got a ship and access to a pretty mind blowing tech demo. So far i probably played like 60hours per year, and it's time to download it again. I just think it's very fun and one of a kind. It can be super janky, and i don't think people should spend as much money as they do on this "game" that may or may not ever see the light of the day. people spend hundrets of dollars on call of duty skins and they then take them away with the new game that is always around the corner. There are nft games that cost 300million dollars too, and they are not games at all, just asset flips and blatent scams.

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Some mates and I backed way back in the day and only really started putting some decent play time into it recently. While it’s definitely still in-progress we were all surprised at what they’ve done and what’s been accomplished.

It’s an absolute shame about the amount of feature creep the game has experienced but even the experience available now is decent.

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[–] chamgireum@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

man im in the wrong business.

guys, i'm making a new game with samurais, lasers, pizza, and master chief might be in it who knows. i just need 500 million dollars and you can play it probably.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Best I can do is three fiddy.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

Bro stop teasing and just tell me where to send my savings

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

$800 million doesn't even seem that high at this stage (I had assumed they broke a billion by now).

Whatever this ends up being when it's all said and done is never going to justify the production costs. If you developed a helmet that could trigger the hardest orgasm your body can muster at the push of a button, it would not justify $800 million.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Idk I imagine that machine could bring in way more than 800M

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s your example for 800mil…?

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Their username is calculator boobs, what did you expect?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Duke Nukem 4ever of the new generation

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But Duke Nukem Forever was released. Star Citizen is more like Beyond Good & Evil 2.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

DN4 was a joke until it got released, is my point.

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[–] grooving@lemmy.studio 16 points 1 week ago

It'll release same day as gta6 and no one will notice, it'll miss its marketing cycle and they'll need another 500M to make up for bad timing

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Roberts probably hasn't finished taking a shit in his life. I just know he holds in a turd for later.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

He lets it poke out to give bystanders a whiff if they pester him about release dates and bug fixing and stability, then he promptly sucks it back in.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can we get elon to fund this? Might distract him from politics for a while and stop him breaking something else

Honestly not a bad idea. He could slap SpaceX on half the ships, and the timelines of star citizen releasing are about the same as SpaceX getting to Mars

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We might get gta 6 before star citizen.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

I'm sure we will

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think $800m may be enough to place it as the biggest scam in gaming industry history.

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