Canada

I don’t buy into this whole narrative. There’s a 2023 study that shows very little change in men’s political views over the past four generations. It’s women, especially white women, who have swung hard to the left, and Gen Z women are twice as likely to call themselves “liberal” as Boomer women. Young women cited the following reasons:

“The #MeToo movement was a defining cultural moment for many young women, informing their views about the treatment of women in society. Donald Trump’s election in 2016 was another formative event for many young women, who remained uniquely opposed to him throughout his presidency. Finally, the overturn of Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court ruling that established a right to abortion, was a uniquely salient issue for young women, who identified it as their most crucial concern in the months following.”

The caveat is that this is an American study. But if we extrapolate to Canada, it’s women who are driving the gender gap between the LPC and CPC. Men are just as conservative as they’ve always been. The only difference between now and 1965 is that they’re all shouting about it on social media, whereas back then, they just bitched about it in bars.

The manosphere is the symptom.

The problem is that something is missing and it's being filled by angry reactionaries and right wing grifters who prey on the particular insecurities of young men, specifically insecurities around masculine values.

What's missing is a foundational framework for understanding the male experience as distinct yet coequal to feminist theory. A framework that seeks to promote a balanced, respectful dialogue by articulating unique structures, values, and challenges faced by men, in order to offer a lens through which male identity, struggle, and transformation can be understood on their own terms, while upholding - acknowledging - the progress and insights of feminism.

These men feel like they don't have purpose or identity. They need a framework, but unfortunately efforts to define and build such a framework are often hijacked by extremists that just hate women and minorities. Like we see now.

I must live in a bubble. Both of my (university age) kids and their friends are vocally offended by Trump and Musk, and they think Polierve is a bad joke.

My oldest games online with a few Americans and they are also very anyi-trump. ("They wouldn't be my friends if they supported him")

Well the kids are leaning right because of propaganda and mind control. Plain and simple. Instagram and Twitter actively push ragebait content designed to radicalise impressionable kids.

Talked to a few of my friend's kids. They all think Musk is a genius.

I see Andrew Tate victims in all of them.

Shitty parenting and the education system being eroded year by year. This is the generation that the billionaires wanted. Poor, stupid and complicit.

These kids have got awful fucking parents

Both JP and PP couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag and they’re waxing poetic about masculinity?

PP’s so masculine that when one of the racist supporters said he’d rape his wife, this powerhouse just pulled down his pants, bent over and took it.

Anything these twats says is absolute nonsense.

Gen x parents have dropped the ball so hard it’s not even funny.

Look, the only reason people start getting conservative, is when needs and wants start getting harder to acquire. Want to change that? then have affordable living make a come back. There's a reason why a decade ago people were more liberal, because shit was more affordable.

I still don't understand how they are doing it.

At no point in history could you go to the woman dealership and buy a woman. You could maybe pay for a little time with a woman, or buy a slave at a slave auction. You could negotiate with a woman's father some exchange for his daughter. But that exchange usually had to have something of value, and it also meant you lived beyond the age of 30.

Like I get that younger people are dumb, and being a man, I can attest that men are particularly dumb, but how fucking whacked are these men thinking they will somehow benefit from this?

Where are their fucking parents? My generation bitches endlessly about boomers, then...raises another generation of them?

Nice.

Social democracy let everyone down (by being neither social or democratic, thanks to politicians thinking about their rich friends) and now people are surprised that a generation started to believe that an authoritarian leader would be better.

I vote for counter propaganda feeding them that right leaning people are all child predators or will become one. Make them demonized the same way they demonize the left.