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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

Meanwhile China has restricted the export of many of the raw materials used to make computers, phones and chips. Someone is getting spanked and it isn't China. Trump should be wearing a collar with a Chinese flag on it, maybe a yoke too.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 102 points 1 day ago (8 children)

As a side note, can you imagine being an accountant and trying to keep track of the tariff declarations that are changing daily?

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Yeah I do quoting for a manufacturer and it's fucking hell.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

May as well install a roulette wheel

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

LetsGoGambling.mp4 playing

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Magic 8 Balls are cheaper.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure all the people who deal with imports have to be on the verge of a mental breakdown. What a nightmare. Policy made by a petty, stupid tyrant based on apparently nothing but vibes and changing as often as he shits his diaper is no way to run a country, but here we are.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

A friend works for a hardscaping company - sidewalks, drainage, parking lots, etc. Every day she gets an email about price changes on equipment and materials. It's making her crazy!

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

Colleague of mine is responsible for implementing the tariffs in our quoting process, he had to spend his marriage anniversary day on this shit.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I literally think it's so absurd that there has been some kind of collective agreement to just ignore Donald Trump's dementia laden rambles.

https://www.theverge.com/news/647480/trumps-tariffs-reportedly-arent-being-collected-for-freight-shipments

Idk what's actually happening here but I hope my knee jerk reaction is correct :)

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

If everyone is noncompliant like that, Trump will have less power than the mayor of DC.

[–] infectoid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I once worked on a project to calculate tariffs on goods for an importer. It was a massive job with lots of edges cases. And that was under normal conditions.

My gut feel is that some, maybe even most of this can be worked in, but there is absolutely going to be shit going under the radar because it’s too hard, too confusing or out right contradictory.

[–] admin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

I've exported computer parts before and you'd be surprised that the way to declare them is not: "gaming PC" or "Macbook air 13"" in the customs form but more like "Data processing machines" and if you were to ship a motherboard, it has to be declared as "Data Processing Machine Parts" or whatever it is, with a totally different code and classification, same thing for memory devices, for CPUs and even for storage devices.

So yeah, I have a feeling they won't even bother covering all the angles and just allow assembled computers, phones (since the US made iPhone is impossible at this point) and "chips" whatever they decide classifies as a chip.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

When rules become too complex, everything becomes a negotiation, and subject to selective enforcement. That may be by design.

[–] lemmysquezzy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's been hell since the start of February. Reporting from the front lines. I've got folks working 16 hour days right now to keep supply chains moving.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Basically, a lot of the important shit that the CEOs of companies who contributed to his campaign depend on. So, he is caving, but only for his big donors.

I hope China doesn't back down, though, and keep their counter-tariffs in place until all our dumb tariffs are taken away. Bullies only understand force.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, if china implemented an exit tariff on USA for the items they want.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

these electronics are literally made in china; it would be hard to image that they won't take some sort of action.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Guess Tim Apple's ~~inugration donation~~ bribe paid off.

Still a terrible person and CEO.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

he is caving, but only for his big donors.

He's also caving for China -- at least, they still benefit greatly.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The solution to chaos is….more chaos

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sounds like a job for Professor Chaos!

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

And General Disarray 🤓 🫡

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

more brribes

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I wonder if you can eat cellphones or inject computer chips instead of insulin...

What good is cheap(er) tech when you can't afford drugs and groceries?

Ah yes, I forgot... His tech bro backers are probably behind this.

[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Jensen Huang paid $1mil for dinner with Trump and Tim Apple donated $1mil to his inauguration

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, so it’s solved.

This is beyond retarded and virtually incoherent. If we were really going to onshore manufacturing, this is literally the ONLY manufacturing that makes sense for Americans to do. We're not going to be building widgets and fucking lawn decorations and other bullshit in this country. What a moron.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

That didn't originally mean Brave New World totalitarianism by distraction, it meant doing things the common people wanted and needed. Juvenal was an elitist and thought that the state should serve the ruling class and nobody else. So no relief from hunger, and no public ceremonies or events that the Great Unwashed could participate in.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yuuuuuup! The excesses of a decaying society

[–] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So like the whole point, they said

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, folding like a hyperactive kid's origami project.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny how these are sold on his store as official merch.

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My feet hurt just from looking at that

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Thank YOU Trump for Allowing these Exemptions!

-Americans who Thanked Trump for the TOTAL Tariffs just a Couple Days ago!

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Oh what's that? Couldn't find people to screw those tiny screws?

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool, but the prices that were raised because of tariffs won't go down so quickly. It'll just go into the pocket of the corps.

[–] shadearg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Deflation is a four letter word to these people, and I have seen economic pundits excoriated for even mentioning the term.

The consumer won't regain what was lost without a fight.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

Prices are still going up and companies are pocketing the difference with even more price gouging. Nobody seems to be stopping them either. Never mind the reciprocal tariffs that got added on top of everything else by other countries.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tim Cook has been suckingTrump off since the beginning. I hope they have losses.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Well, they can think of it as a PR stunt/lobbying that helped get this done.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

Watch scumbag tech still list tariffs as a source of cost increase

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Dude was worried they would have his head when iPhones started costing $3k

[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So the multinationals are fine but small businesses are crushed. Make economy recede again!

Caving like a little bitch boy trying to wear big boy pants.

Such a big ole PANICAN.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Man I almost bought a new phone ahead of the inevitable price hikes.

Cut the shit, asshole.