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Wang Guanjung and Zhang Renbo tell reporters in Ukraine they were ‘fed lies’ while fighting for Moscow

Two Chinese citizens captured fighting against Ukraine said they were “fed lies” by Russia and that Vladimir Putin’s forces were not as strong as they claimed.

Wang Guanjung and Zhang Renbo were captured fighting for Russia in eastern Ukraine earlier this month.

Handcuffed and wearing military fatigues at a briefing organised by Ukrinform, the Ukrainian national news agency, the pair said: “All Russia fed us are lies. They’re fake. Russia isn’t as strong as they claim, and Ukraine isn’t as backwards as they say.”

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[–] dmalteseknight@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago

Eh as much as I would like it to be true, I would take the word of captured enemy combatants with a grain of salt.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago

Vladimir Putin’s forces were not as strong as they claimed.

A three day special operation that turned into a three year operation? The headline is not exactly groundbreaking.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Those trump comments at the end make me utterly sick to be an American.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 56 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

“All Russia fed us are lies. They’re fake. Russia isn’t as strong as they claim, and Ukraine isn’t as backwards as they say.”

And, nothing has changed. Two weeks march to Helsinki to save those poor backwater Finnish boys from oppression and starvation and all that.

Did you know: the famous molotov cocktail is named such because when ussr was bombing the Finns, they publicly claimed to be dropping humanitarian food aid, and definitely not incindiary bombs. The Finns decided to give them the name "Molotovs Bread Basket" - after the foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov - and named our incendiary weaponry consisting of a bottle of booze the Molotov's cocktail, a "drink to go with the bread".

Also the official name for it is polttoPullo, burnBottle. Definitely not to be confused with polttoPallo, which is dodgeball.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, does it mean that your version of dodgeball is literally 'burnball'? Or does poltto have two different meanings? Either way, I love the word already.

[–] chrizzly@feddit.org 7 points 17 hours ago

Funny, in german it's also called Burnball ('Brennball').

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. Getting hit means you are burned.
Back when I was a kid, polttopallo was always what the US calls "Circle dodgeball", and not the team variant. We have one like that too, with the twist that when you get hit, you run behind the opposing team and can start throwing them in the back. It's called Kahden Tulen Välissä - between two fires.

In Sweden they have a variation called Killerboll. You probably don't need a translation for that :)

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Nice, we also have the backline dodgeball thing with teams!

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean they're using donkeys and electric scooters on the front...

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey, they use those 1957 trucks too!

[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Plants vs Z

[–] Yermaw@lemm.ee 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The 3 day special operation turned into 3 years of struggle. They're definitely not as strong as they claim.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Russia lying? Who would have opened a history book and thought that?!

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some units even get horse drawn Maxim guns.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Latest versions of maxim are still pretty useful weapons. Not on the field, or drawn with a horse, but if you have a ton of ammunition and mount one in a bunker where you can use water cooling it's still pretty powerful.

500-850 shots per minute (depending on model) with 7.62mm and with proper cooling you can just keep the trigger pulled and wreak havoc until you ran out of ammunition. Obviously it's still old, heavy and big, but if you don't have to carry it around it's still decent hardware.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Which is what they were doing with the old Maxims in Ukraine. Slap it down in a defensive position, where you don't have to move it (or, in a few cases, weld that shit to a pintle mount in the back of a truck), and you can keep firing until the barrel melts or you don't have anything left to shoot.

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 16 points 23 hours ago

Russia: We want tough fighters like Rambo.

China: Hmm, we’ve got him at home, here’s Zhang Renbo!