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Top Trump official Stephen Miller's recent declaration that anyone who "preaches hate for America" will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump's platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller's is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm really sick of these fucking Nazis.

A line has been crossed, especially if you've ever taken the oath of enlistment or office.

It is time to defend our constitution.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

To quote our grandparents, the only good nazi is a dead nazi.

This will not end well

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago

Here goes nothing:

Fuck Trump and his cronies of his so-called "administration"!

It was nice knowing all of you.

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

FUCK AMERICA FUCK TRUMP FUCK NAZIS FUCK ALL YOU SCUMBAGS COME AFTER ME

[–] Not_Cartmans_Mom@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This shit has me legitimately worried

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[–] rob200@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact that Trump is testing that if this is legal at all is weird. You shouldn't be able to "deport" a born native person to another country for having an opinion.

Sure prison in general is not perfect, but wouldn't you rather be prisoned in the country you are born in and not deported to some country Trump had happened to pick for you?

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Id rather be deported and cast free as a vagabond than imprisoned period. To be "deported" to the internment camps is terrifying.

[–] rob200@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago

I don't think Trump would pick a safe place for you to be deported to because as I seen from some of the statements from the organization and supporters, if they were to deport someone this administration may consider them as some of the worse.

That's what I was getting at when I was saying "deported to some country Trump had happened to pick for you." So even if you know of places that might be safe places to get deported to, that doesn't mean that's where the Trump Administration might deport someone.

Someone should take this stance to the supreme court or to a judge because this just screams obviously, as a 1st amendment violation since it is coming directly from the government, rather then strictly from private a social media platform.

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

I legit hate this guy... Not America just this one dude.

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hands off rally is Saturday. Over 400 participating cities.https://www.axios.com/2025/04/15/50501-protests-saturday-trump

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Imagine if everyone just donated $10. We could fund our own think tank one that actually does the research, develops strategy, identifies pressure points, crafts effective slogans, and figures out how to organize and target key demographics for real impact.

I'm tired of the usual approach where people are randomly called to show up and yell. It’s not working. Meanwhile, our opponents are using think tanks to play the long game and win. We're playing checkers while they're playing chess.

We need to face the facts: they're outmaneuvering us. If we want to stand a chance, we have to stop reacting and start adapting, using some of the same strategic tools, but with our own values and purpose.

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have so much money that they can easily corrupt those initiatives that’s why it’s hard

They can even buy the president

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[–] Corno@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Not American but I hate the USA's current administration. I am neither ashamed nor scared to say this. I presume this would be labeled as hate since I can't see why their definition of "hate" wouldn't be incredibly vague so as to hurt as many people as possible.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 145 points 3 days ago (6 children)

To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -Theodore Roosevelt

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (26 children)

They ARE traitors. Russian-backed, Nazi-seig-heil throwing traitors. They aren't joking about wanting to jail liberals. They 100% mean it.

They've been prepped to be fine with it since they started calling "liberalism a mental disorder."

Straight Russian propaganda. The Kremlin wants to stamp out western liberal democracy. MAGA's the push to destroy America

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Wow, what a dumb thing to claim when you have surrounded yourself with “free speech absolutists”. They are going to lose it on him, right? …. Right?

[–] underwater@sh.itjust.works 212 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In this context, “hate for America” really just means hate for Trump and MAGAs.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We really are deep into dear leader territory with the cabinet spending an hour jerking the president off instead of fixing the economy he drove off a cliff.

[–] underwater@sh.itjust.works 75 points 3 days ago (16 children)

The whole party is a cult now. I got banned from the conservative subreddit just for asking - as a conservative myself - what conservative values they think a criminal like him is embodying. What exactly is he conserving? This man has cheated on all of his wives, is a racist, extremely egotistical, etc. He’s closer to the Antichrist than the second coming of Christ. His entire admin is just birds of a feather.

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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With a rusty pipe. I preach hate for America, were the baddies. Come get me pussy.

[–] TON618@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

If America wants people to stop hating, maybe instead of trying to wipe it's ass with the first amendment, it should stop cultivating hate with it's actions.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

They're wiping their asses with the whole Constitution.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

If America wants people to stop hating

What makes you think that is on the agenda? Hate is their specialty. A divided people are no threat to the oligarchy. Hate for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

[–] SwordandArt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Hate has been actively cultivated online through various psyop campaigns over the years. It may have started offline but it skyrocketed with the growth of the internet to specifically destabilize the US.

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[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some worried the administration was veering into an authoritarian territory.

Yeah no fucking shit. It has been happening since he got into office you fucking dipshits.

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[–] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Could they deport me to Scotland?

[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

To Scotlavador, yes

[–] crazyhotpasta@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

at this point, fuck U.S

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 59 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

Oh good, you're finally awake. Let's get you caught up on the last six months.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

If they destroy the first, use the second. That's why it was ratified!

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[–] colforge@lemmy.world 112 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Fuck you Mr Miller. Fuck what you and yours are doing to my country. I hate it. I fucking dare you to deport me.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 12 points 2 days ago

This walking penis needs to be catapulted into the sun.

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 93 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Personally, I love this country. I fought for it. I will not bow to fascist twats such as this.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 39 points 3 days ago (14 children)

I love America… I fucking hate Trump, MAGA and the GOP.

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So when will Dipshit Donny be escorted out?

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[–] p3n@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I can hardly believe that we have devolved so far, so quickly. We are literally one step away from becoming an authoritarian dictatorship. The plan is this:

  1. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) immigrants. These immigrants will mostly be legitimately illegal and gang associated criminals, but there will be a few individuals with legal standing and no criminal records. This could simply be the result of denying due process, or it could be an intentional test. The important factor is that 5th Amendment Due process rights are denied to all of them. The fact that these people (but be sure to de-humanize them as much as possible) are immigrants will be the distracting factor. <---- We are here

  2. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) criminals. These will be legitimate criminals with legitimately horrible records; that will be the distracting issue that will be made the focus of the argument: "They are serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, we don't want them here, so we should get rid of them." This has already been announced as the plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfrwWz-m5I . That is not the point! The point is that they are still U.S. citizens, despite their crimes. The significance of this is that it will be the final barrier that needs to be broken, and the final protection that must be dismantled for the final solution to be enacted. If no one steps up and successfully defends the constitutional rights of these American citizens, then all the pieces will be in place for step 3.

  3. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) political dissidents, rivals, business opponents, and maybe just anyone the administration doesn't like. If they are political dissidents they will claim that they have committed crimes like, "hate speech against America(TM)", if they are a minority, they will be "associated with gangs", if they are business rivals it will have committed "economic terrorism", or something like that. It doesn't really matter because they eliminated due process in step 1 (remember that was the important factor, not the immigrant dis-tractor), and without due process they don't have to prove any crimes. Our last defense would have been the simple fact that we are American Citizens, but we established that doesn't matter in step 2 because they were "bad people", but now the "bad people" are whoever the administration decides is bad.

The context of the 5th amendment is important to understand its intent:

Historically, the Fifth Amendment draws significant influence from English common law. The grand jury clause specifically dates back to the Magna Carta, and was designed to protect accused persons from prosecution by the English royalty. In keeping with that intention, the Constitution’s framers opted to adapt the grand jury to the Constitution, so as to protect citizens from prosecution by the federal government.
Reagan Library

Even in a Monarchy, which is not the form of government we are supposed to have, the Magna Carta offered protections against the King from prosecuting commoners, which is the origin of this amendment. We aren't just devolving to pre-revolution America, which had enough disagreements with the rule of King George III that it sparked a war...no we are devolving to a pre-Magna Carta England type of Government. We are descending into middle-age feudalism with complete authoritarian rule.... and we aren't fortunate enough to have a dictator like Alfred the Great.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

Kapo Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 79 points 3 days ago

Yup, America is officially a fascist state. They just admit they are full on Nazis now. Never in my lifetime I thought America will turn into that and here we are. It's fucking wild, like I'm living in some alternate timeline of Wolfenstein The New Colossus. Just wild.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Why do Americans still talk about the constitution like it means something or is still relevant?

Your constitution is GONE. It's a historical artifact. It has no meaning in today's America.

All that matters now is the whim of the emotional toddler in the White House. Get used to it. He's not going until he's dead.

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[–] Liberteez@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

Free means all.

Rise, or fall.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Come get me asshole! I’ve hated this place since cancers like you were allowed to infect our politics.

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